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Please identify this racer in ALL its details for one point
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Re: FW #351
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2022, 08:53:19 AM »
Experts?

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Re: FW #351
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2022, 11:53:33 AM »
BMW powered Scampolo Formula 3 car?
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Re: FW #351
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2022, 04:15:44 PM »
BMW powered Scampolo Formula 3 car

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Re: FW #351
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2022, 10:04:41 AM »
Is it a Tecno-Ford?
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Re: FW #351
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2022, 11:48:16 AM »
No

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Re: FW #351
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2022, 11:15:15 AM »
East German F3 (300)/ formula Junior based on a Scampolo 502 by Ernst Lehmann.

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Re: FW #351
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2022, 11:25:10 AM »
Not East German F3 (300)/ formula Junior, not  based on a Scampolo 502 by Ernst Lehmann.

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Re: FW #351
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2022, 11:34:27 AM »
Willi Zimmermanns FJunior Zimmermann-DKW first equipped with a Hansa/Goliath engine after a few races the car became the DKW engine in 1959

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Re: FW #351
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2022, 11:52:00 AM »
Not Willi Zimmermanns FJunior Zimmermann-DKW

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Re: FW #351
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2022, 02:48:48 AM »
professionals?

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Re: FW #351
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2022, 09:47:49 AM »
You say reply #3 that this is F3. Is this 500cc F3 or 1-litre F3 from 1964 ?
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Re: FW #351
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2022, 12:31:34 PM »
You say reply #3 that this is F3. Is this 500cc F3 or 1-litre F3 from 1964 ?
Sorry! Have to correct my reply #3: IT IS NOT A FORMULA 3-CAR, BUT 1100ccm FORMULA JUNIOR

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Re: FW #351
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2022, 02:25:07 PM »
Thank you. that makes sense.

is it British?
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Re: FW #351
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2022, 02:58:55 PM »
No

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Re: FW #351
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2022, 03:24:09 PM »
Italian ?
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Re: FW #351
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2022, 03:49:44 PM »
No

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Re: FW #351
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2022, 10:19:40 AM »
German ?
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Re: FW #351
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2022, 10:42:51 AM »
Yes

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Re: FW #351
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2022, 03:13:59 PM »
Is this called a Mantzel DKW in your source ?
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Re: FW #351
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2022, 05:18:16 PM »
No

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Re: FW #351
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2022, 06:37:30 AM »
Here's a photo of Willi Zimmermann's Goliath/Hansa engined car. They do look very similar. Maybe it's a TCA60?
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Re: FW #351
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2022, 10:14:58 AM »
I have to agree to both of you, 'knewit' and 'nicanary', that the Zimmermann Hansa FJ is the same as the puzzle car, so both of you will be awarded with one point. 'knewit', as he was first to solve the puzzle. 'nicanary', as he was persistent enough to repeat 'knewit's' answer again with a picture proof, even though I had already called it wrong, and forced me to investigate further.

My source designates another name and builder for the car. I attach the proof about it, as this photo-studio named it 'MH-Formula Junior'. The builder should be Manfred Herbster. At first, I thought, that could be right, if Mr. Herbster sold the project to Mr. Zimmermann and Mr. Zimmermann raced the car named 'Zimmermann Hansa Formula Junior'.
I stopped thinking about this opportunity, as soon as my son zoomed the original picture of the puzzle car and told me, that there is a script 'Zimmermann' to find at the front bonnet.
Sorry about that mistake and some misunderstandings.

May be there has been any Herbster-Zimmermann-connection with this car, I don't know about. If somebody knows more, she/he will be invited to to share this knowledge with us
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Re: SOLVED: FW #351 Zimmermann-Hansa 1100 FJ/MH-Hansa 1100 FJ, 1959
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2022, 11:24:45 AM »
I have checked the Formula Junior records from 1959 to 1963. No sign of Manfred Herbster racing this car, although of course he was a maker of 500cc F3 cars in the early 1950s.
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Re: SOLVED: FW #351 Zimmermann-Hansa 1100 FJ/MH-Hansa 1100 FJ, 1959
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2022, 11:53:53 AM »
Yes 'nicanary', but this doesn't exclude that he's the builder
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