Author Topic: SOLVED: Djetset 1044 - Retractatop Rolls-Royce Convertible Saloon by Jim Ingram (Read 3665 times)

Djetset · « **Reply #50 on:** June 06, 2020, 04:32:01 PM »

I had heard of him before, but can't pretend that I knew much about him or his automotive work, so this might be a tougher one than I first thought. This proposed car's name might be a tad easier to solve as a start.

Carnut · « **Reply #51 on:** June 06, 2020, 05:27:20 PM »

Not quite sure where to start as have nothing at all to go on!
Is it a geograhical name, e.g. Continental, Monte Carlo etc.?

Djetset · « **Reply #52 on:** June 06, 2020, 06:01:28 PM »

No, the name relates to the vehicle type.

Carnut · « **Reply #53 on:** June 07, 2020, 04:08:07 AM »

Like 'Grand Tourer'?

Djetset · « **Reply #54 on:** June 07, 2020, 04:19:51 AM »

No, more reflective of what the car does (which might not be too obvious from the illustration).

gte4289 · « **Reply #55 on:** June 07, 2020, 04:34:14 AM »

'Retractable' (roof/top)?

Djetset · « **Reply #56 on:** June 07, 2020, 04:37:13 AM »

Quote from: gte4289 on June 07, 2020, 04:34:14 AM

'Retractable' (roof/top)?

Yes, the name is reflective of that feature.

Carnut · « **Reply #57 on:** June 07, 2020, 04:37:36 AM »

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Djetset · « **Reply #58 on:** June 07, 2020, 04:39:17 AM »

No, more reflective of the opening top.

Carnut · « **Reply #59 on:** June 07, 2020, 04:40:19 AM »

Convertible Coupé?

gte4289 · « **Reply #60 on:** June 07, 2020, 04:41:34 AM »

Is it a generic term ('Drophead Coupe'), or something more unique to this particular concept?

Djetset · « **Reply #61 on:** June 07, 2020, 04:42:16 AM »

Quote from: Carnut on June 07, 2020, 04:40:19 AM

Convetible Coupé?

No.

Djetset · « **Reply #62 on:** June 07, 2020, 04:44:22 AM »

Quote from: gte4289 on June 07, 2020, 04:41:34 AM

Is it a generic term ('Drophead Coupe'), or something more unique to this particular concept?

Not a generic term but unique to this vehicle, reflecting what it does.

gte4289 · « **Reply #63 on:** June 07, 2020, 04:56:55 AM »

Quote from: Djetset on June 07, 2020, 04:44:22 AM

Quote from: gte4289 on June 07, 2020, 04:41:34 AM
Is it a generic term ('Drophead Coupe'), or something more unique to this particular concept?
Not a generic term but unique to this vehicle, reflecting what it does.

Is it an abstract term that's more reflective of what it does than descriptive (e.g., Ford's 'Skyliner')?

Djetset · « **Reply #64 on:** June 07, 2020, 05:35:20 AM »

The name is not abstract, but to quote from a well known British TV ad, ‘it does what it says on the tin.’

Carnut · « **Reply #65 on:** June 07, 2020, 06:46:46 AM »

Like "Folding Roof"?

Djetset · « **Reply #66 on:** June 07, 2020, 06:50:25 AM »

Quote from: Carnut on June 07, 2020, 06:46:46 AM

Like "Folding Roof"?

Something along those lines, but more catchy and 'marketing speak.'

gilescooperuk · « **Reply #67 on:** June 07, 2020, 06:58:07 AM »

Sky view

nicanary · « **Reply #68 on:** June 07, 2020, 07:00:28 AM »

Foldaway?

Carnut · « **Reply #69 on:** June 07, 2020, 07:06:25 AM »

Sun Top?

gte4289 · « **Reply #70 on:** June 07, 2020, 07:23:44 AM »

Retractatop Convertible Saloon by J. Ingram, working with Harwood Motors

nicanary · « **Reply #71 on:** June 07, 2020, 08:00:17 AM »

Well found. But honestly, why? Who would want to spend money on an old 25/30 back then?

Djetset · « **Reply #72 on:** June 07, 2020, 10:52:09 AM »

Quote from: gte4289 on June 07, 2020, 07:23:44 AM

Retractatop Convertible Saloon by J. Ingram, working with Harwood Motors

Wow, how on earth did you manage to find that, as I took this (some time ago) from an old Rolls-Royce Enthusiasts Club magazine, and could find no mention of John Ingram or his patented Retractatop saloon anywhere on line!

Traditionally, the Puzzles I place from print sources (most of mine) last at least twice as long here on AP as those taken from digital sources. I try and avoid the latter when possible as in the past we all know that sadly some more dubious AP Members have obviously used on-line image search tools to solve a Puzzle, which rather defeats the whole point of this exceptional website for automotive enthusiasts with good car knowledge.

Anyway, very well found, and a deserved point to you.

gilescooperuk · « **Reply #73 on:** June 07, 2020, 11:11:20 AM »

If it was patented then surely everyone who builds a retracting roof car must be paying royalties to him or his descendants?

Djetset · « **Reply #74 on:** June 07, 2020, 11:19:36 AM »

Quote from: gilescooperuk on June 07, 2020, 11:11:20 AM

If it was patented then surely everyone who builds a retracting roof car must be paying royalties to him or his descendants?

I guess the Ingram patent must have had a unique feature that the others haven't used, as Peugeot has been building folding hardtops in ths style since the early 1930s, for example!

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Author Topic: SOLVED: Djetset 1044 - Retractatop Rolls-Royce Convertible Saloon by Jim Ingram (Read 3665 times)