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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2011, 06:40:37 AM »
but
Is A10 a sketch for the CDA Exemplar II by Mario Revelli?

No Mario Revelli involvement in sketch A10.
but CDA is correct?

I do not know, but it sure resembles the CDA.
In 1970 Enrico Fumia worked as a freelancer for Mario Revelli. I think this sketch shows indeed the 1971/72 Expemplar 2 concept for CDA. So, to say there was no involvement of Revelli is not really true, is it? Maybe you meant he didn't penned this particular sketch, I would have agreed... ;D

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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2011, 07:19:27 AM »
A10 and B3 match - Enrico Fumia

Correct!

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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2011, 07:57:45 AM »
but
Is A10 a sketch for the CDA Exemplar II by Mario Revelli?

No Mario Revelli involvement in sketch A10.
but CDA is correct?

I do not know, but it sure resembles the CDA.
In 1970 Enrico Fumia worked as a freelancer for Mario Revelli. I think this sketch shows indeed the 1971/72 Expemplar 2 concept for CDA. So, to say there was no involvement of Revelli is not really true, is it? Maybe you meant he didn't penned this particular sketch, I would have agreed... ;D

I indeed meant that Revelli has nothing to do with this particular sketch.  As also mentioned in one of my previous posts, I don't know if this sketch is CDA related.  But it seems your assumption is correct.

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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2011, 05:26:27 AM »
 :bump:

Remember this one?

I haven't forgotten about it, but I'm finding it very difficult. So far I've managed to identify a couple of the products, but have only just found a possible name for the designer of one of them.

B10 is the "Kolossal" food slicer created by an Italian studio called Synthesis Design. If I've understood correctly, it's by Carlo Gaino, who has worked in the past at Italdesign.

I've also found a small image which shows car sketch A5, so I'm guessing that that's the link.

Now back to the drawing board... :-\

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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2011, 12:56:51 PM »
Correct!

Still 7 to be solved...

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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2011, 02:02:14 PM »
Is A2 Ermanno Cressoni ?

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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2011, 02:40:16 PM »

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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2012, 12:22:37 AM »
ADG 49 B2 l'orologio da scrivania Cronotime per Ritz Italora by Pio Manzu and ADG 49 A6 Autonova GT, 1965

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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2012, 03:34:12 AM »
ADG 49 B2 l'orologio da scrivania Cronotime per Ritz Italora by Pio Manzu and ADG 49 A6 Autonova GT, 1965

B2 is obviously not the cronotime clock by Pio Manzu, but B2 is indeed a Pio Manzu design.
A6 is not the Autonova GT.
B2-A6 is not the correct combination

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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2012, 05:03:26 PM »
I've been searching in books, magazines, internet, asked friends, and I haven't match not even one. So, I think the only way to solve this post is piece by piece. Asking and adding and someone will do the matches.

My first piece:
A6 Citroen SM Maserati 1973 by Giulio Alfieri
B6 Cafetera Moka express design by Alfonso Bialetti. Bialetti's Dama Brown Re-design by Pino Spagnolo

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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2012, 05:25:46 PM »
I agree. I haven't been able to make any progress with this.

All I can add is that B2 is a Kartell desk organiser (portaoggetti da scrivania) by Pio Manzù.

B1 is a Videotec Medusa CCTV camera housing, but try as I might, I can't find out who designed it.

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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2012, 06:05:43 PM »
According to my search
B1 Videotec Medusa designed by Alessio Grotto.
B5 Food cooler by Gio Style design.
B9 Airoh Helmets by Luca Gafforio.
B7 Citofono Terraneo serie 600 by Giuseppe Zecco BTicino
That's all I got, so far.

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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2012, 06:09:57 PM »
Last minute finding (Guess it's right)
Andrea Scarpellini who works at Pino Spagnolo Studio in Bialetti's Dama Project also works for some Honda Project that I guess A3 Honda Civic DX4 Sedan

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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #38 on: January 15, 2012, 04:33:57 AM »
It is not necessary to identify the cars (because most of the times it is just a sketch), just the correct designer – car drawing – non car related product combination is worth a point 


A9 is not a Bertone Freeclimber, but it is based on a Daihatsu.  It is a personalization proposal on the basis of a Daihatsu Rocky that the designer made for a company from Turin.

I do not know if A6 is Citroën SM related (but I don’t think so).  But I do know that the sketch is not from the hand of Giulio Alfieri.

B6 is indeed a Bialetti by Pino Spagnolo.

B2 is indeed the Kartell desk organiser (portaoggetti da scrivania) by Pio Manzù.

B1 is indeed the Videotec Medusa, but Alessio Grotto did not design it.

B5 is indeed a food cooler designed for, but not by Gio Style.

I have a different helmet manufacturer and designer for B9.

Also for B7, I have a different manufacturer and designer.

A3 is not a Honda but a Citroën BX proposal from 1988, but not from the hand of Andrea Scarpellini

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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2012, 10:21:45 AM »
It seems someone has already answered the one thing I recognise here - Pio Manzu's Kartell pencil holder - but not yet linked it to one of the car designs. This is a bit of a guess, but the Manzu car design here must surely be A4 - if only because it looks like the only design old enough to have been completed in his lifetime. I've no idea what it was meant to be though, sorry!

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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #40 on: May 16, 2012, 12:38:27 PM »
It seems someone has already answered the one thing I recognise here - Pio Manzu's Kartell pencil holder - but not yet linked it to one of the car designs. This is a bit of a guess, but the Manzu car design here must surely be A4 - if only because it looks like the only design old enough to have been completed in his lifetime. I've no idea what it was meant to be though, sorry!

Correct!  Identifying the car is not part of the puzzle. 
My source just mentions: 'Notes during a sociology lecture, 1960'

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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2012, 01:46:29 PM »
Is Carl Olsen one of the designers you're looking for?

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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2012, 02:04:47 PM »
Is Carl Olsen one of the designers you're looking for?

Reply #23 will answer your question.

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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2012, 02:08:26 PM »
Is Carl Olsen one of the designers you're looking for?

Reply #23 will answer your question.

 :-X Next time I promise to read the whole thread before replying

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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #44 on: June 16, 2013, 06:53:44 AM »
More than a year without any replies... so time for some action!

Pino Spagnolo was already identified as one of the designers. 
Herewith a tip to identify each of the other still missing designers.  And because this is Autopuzzles, all tips are car-related  :)

Designer I: Worked for the Centro Style Alfa Romeo and worked there a lot on the 33 project before he became an independent designer.
Designer II: His last name is not that famous, but his mother has a famous car-related last name.
Designer III-IV-V: the pictures below show each time one of the cars they designed

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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #45 on: June 16, 2013, 12:36:55 PM »
Designer IV: Fausto Boscariol?

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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #46 on: June 16, 2013, 01:51:04 PM »
Designer V: Rolo Bruno?

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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #47 on: June 16, 2013, 02:13:47 PM »
Both are nice tries, but both are wrong.

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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #48 on: June 16, 2013, 03:59:56 PM »
As Designer III shows the Changan Raimondi, I believe the designer is Raimondi. I have to look up my notes because many years ago I jotted down his full name
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Re: ADG 49: designers, car drawings and non car related stuff
« Reply #49 on: June 16, 2013, 04:25:49 PM »
As Designer III shows the Changan Raimondi, I believe the designer is Raimondi. I have to look up my notes because many years ago I jotted down his full name

The car is correctly identified, but Raimondi is not the name I am looking for.  According to the website of the designer I'm looking for, it was co-designed with a firm (which is linked to Raimondi).