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Puzzles question & reply
« on: February 25, 2016, 04:58:06 AM »
I realy enjoy solving some of the puzzles. In this manner I refresh and update my knowledge in car & vehicles. However I regularly become frustrated after having posted a reply to a question, I several occasions, the reply was correct but more details were required... I some cases I understand, but in other cases I didn't. To solve this why don't you ask exactly what you want to know.
The other issue, how can you post a puzzle when you don't have the reply? Wouldn't it be better to mention you don't know the (full) answer followed by a "precise" question?

Please take this as a "constructive" comment.
     

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Re: Puzzles question & reply
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2016, 05:25:19 AM »
I'll answer for the part I feel involved in.
I post puzzles I have not the answer sometimes because I'd like to know them.
I know there is a thread about it (Information Requests || What is this car ? thread) but a puzzle gets more attention. I always declare when I do not have the answer myself and many times they have been solved nevertheless.
If you and other puzzlers don't like that, I can stop posting them and use that other thread, but so far I think they are working good. I'll accept any suggestion about  ;)

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Re: Puzzles question & reply
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2016, 05:37:34 AM »
Mr. Jaray, Paul

I think you do it in a proper way, when declared that you don't have the full answer, I have no isue & please keep on posting them.

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Re: Puzzles question & reply
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2016, 05:44:32 AM »
I think Mogul is aiming this at me..
I post a lot of puzzles, but just occasionally I find out more information about the car after I've posted it or find out that the information I had was either not complete or wrong.  So, rather than just leave the puzzle for an easy answer and waste it as I'm not going to get what I really wanted because I didn't ask for it, I do sometimes change the question so that I still get what I always really wanted. 

I do think the point of puzzles is that they make you think and look for the answer, which is what AutoPuzzles is all about, so I think what I do is legitimate if perhaps slightly annoying to some..  I do also post some very easy puzzles aimed at Rookies and which I know are easy and I would never change.

I think out of over 4500 puzzles I've posted I've maybe changed the requirements a maximum of 10 times and it's always to keep the integrity of the puzzle.  Most puzzlers accept it and enjoy looking for the new information but there are those who allow their annoyance to get the better of them.

Like PJ I do also sometimes say I don't know the full answer, but more often I think I have the full answer but then subsequently find out I haven't...
« Last Edit: February 25, 2016, 05:55:52 AM by Carnut »
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Re: Puzzles question & reply
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2016, 05:58:41 AM »
Guy's I'm not aiming at anybody, but yes on your last puzzle I did get somewhat frustrated as it was clearly a Maserati and you indicated it was not.....
I agree it shouldn't be to easy, searching is what makes it fun. I'm only trying to get rid of the frustration in some very "few" cases. I, this specific case, why not ask: "What can you tell me about this picture" & "who's the coachbuilder who is working on it in the picture".
As initialy indicated I only want to be constructive.

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Re: Puzzles question & reply
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2016, 06:07:14 AM »
Autopuzzles is a bit of fun, not a competition. The puzzles remain the "property" of the puzzle-setter as they progress through the ranks, and personally I see no harm if the OP decides to alter the answers required, especially if it reaches Pro level. Once a member has traced the origins of a car, it shouldn't take too much work to find out a bit more about the vehicle. I don't see what fun there is to be had in identifying a common mass-produced car in seconds flat - there needs to be a degree of difficulty.

I have made mistakes in the past in my puzzles, incorrectly identifying cars or believing incorrect information on the internet. It happens, and the more prolific the number of puzzles set, the more chance there is of this happening. It's frustrating for the puzzler, but we're all human. Anyone on AP who doesn't usually provide puzzles will soon learn this if they start posting their own.

(PS Mogul's post was not available when I was compiling my own reply!)
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Re: Puzzles question & reply
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2016, 06:16:18 AM »
Guy's I'm not aiming at anybody, but yes on your last puzzle I did get somewhat frustrated as it was clearly a Maserati and you indicated it was not.....
I agree it shouldn't be to easy, searching is what makes it fun. I'm only trying to get rid of the frustration in some very "few" cases. I, this specific case, why not ask: "What can you tell me about this picture" & "who's the coachbuilder who is working on it in the picture".
As initialy indicated I only want to be constructive.

Appreciated.  Of course I thought I had all the info when I originally posted the puzzle and only subsequently found out my info wasn't quite right, so I had to change it..  Sorry.
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