Author Topic: Information Requests || What is this car ? thread (Read 844328 times)

Iluvatar · « **Reply #1000 on:** March 02, 2015, 03:43:33 AM »

Quote from: als15 on March 01, 2015, 02:51:48 PM

The 2 cars in the middle are by Vignale (Fiat 1100 & Lancia Aprilia). But I don't believe that the fourth is also Vignale (no reference of any Vignale Ala 6C) whilst the first should be Fiat 1100 by Francis Lombardi. So a mixed display.
I tought it would have been easy... But if you don-t know either, it justifies why I spend a whole evening without results...

Ooopss... Lancia and Fiat are not by Ghia...

I've never seen that Alfa... it reminds me of similar cabriolets by Pinin Farina... but also the Ghia Supergioiello cars... I guess it could be a Ghia or a P.F.... but I really don't know... I'll try to check some books...

João · « **Reply #1001 on:** March 02, 2015, 11:18:50 AM »

Why not? Vignale Stand, it can be a 6C 2500 by them in my opinion.

als15 · « **Reply #1002 on:** March 02, 2015, 11:35:44 AM »

Actually, looking at the flower boxes on the floor, the 3 cars look together. It would be a great discover. I'll dig it more.

Iluvatar · « **Reply #1003 on:** March 02, 2015, 06:18:13 PM »

After further researches... the Alfa 2500 is not in the Anselmi 2500 book nor in the Fucina 2300-2500 book...
Another possible guess is Boneschi...
If it's Vignale stand it's great!

Iluvatar · « **Reply #1004 on:** March 02, 2015, 06:21:36 PM »

The book "Vignale con Michelotti designer" doesn't help...

mekubb · « **Reply #1005 on:** March 03, 2015, 04:39:55 AM »

Could the Alfa be a Castagna design ? There are similarities with other cars bodied by them.

Facel · « **Reply #1006 on:** March 07, 2015, 07:38:39 AM »

Hello,

I try to send an answer and a picture of the car but what I see is:: You already submitted this post! You might have accidentally double clicked or tried to refresh the page

The right answer is Alfa Romeo 2500 Vignale. The picture was made at the salon in Torino 1948

Facel · « **Reply #1007 on:** March 07, 2015, 07:43:59 AM »

This is what I see: Sorry! There is already an attachment with the same filename as the one you tried to upload. Please rename the file and try again

I changed the name of the file three times but still I can't send the pictures. What I am doing wrong?

Arunas · « **Reply #1008 on:** March 07, 2015, 02:51:55 PM »

Quote from: Facel on March 07, 2015, 07:43:59 AM

This is what I see: Sorry! There is already an attachment with the same filename as the one you tried to upload. Please rename the file and try again

I changed the name of the file three times but still I can't send the pictures. What I am doing wrong?

Try to re-login to AutoPuzzles. Also add some number of something at the end of the file.
Also, what type of file is that? Is it jpg?

Facel · « **Reply #1009 on:** March 07, 2015, 05:59:40 PM »

here are some pictures

als15 · « **Reply #1010 on:** March 08, 2015, 11:58:44 AM »

Thanks. I basically agree with you, but the source you are quoting - Fornai's book - is normally all but reliable: not enough to be considered a confirmation. The evidence is that the car is in Vignale's booth, but unfortunately there are no real evidence that he made the body, as it doesn't appear anywhere else. Another period captioned picture would confirm, if any xsists.

kwgibbs · « **Reply #1011 on:** March 15, 2015, 03:05:37 PM »

I believe I found the car that you requested more information on,it was called the Scrimp, or nicknamed as such,was built by Wilkinson Automotive Developments in Hertfordshire in 1965-66.It was commissioned by Alan Fraser,he apparently had commissioned several prototypes at the time,his chosen car was designed by Tom Killeen.Mr. Wilkinson had a small number of staff working for him at the time.The car was delivered to Mr. Fraser as a non runner. the information I have mentions that one of his engine people made the engine to run backwards,as the Imp engine and the box was reversed in the car (mid engine instead of rear engine),the car had a steel monocoque chassis with aluminum panels.The wheels were Hillman imp,the rear lights were Hillman hunter. The car was done in british racing green.,also the car apparently never had an official name,but nicknamed Scrimp.

Allan L · « **Reply #1012 on:** March 15, 2015, 07:27:09 PM »

Can't add more detail about the Scrimp, but I did have dealings with Brian Wilkinson in the mid-1960s and remember the business of having the engine converted to run backwards. Now, as then, I cannot understand why it was done that way rather than inverting the gearbox/final drive.
This photo (which was part of an early puzzle of mine) shows the converted pigsty in Steeple Morden where Wilkinson worked.

CrazyAutopuzzler · « **Reply #1013 on:** March 15, 2015, 10:41:54 PM »

They say this was photographed at a car show in Mexico City in 1992, anyone knows more?

kwgibbs · « **Reply #1014 on:** March 16, 2015, 12:34:25 AM »

this car looks to be paul schutt,s home-built,called six-wheels from somewhere in Germany,if my memory serves me right?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #1015 on:** March 16, 2015, 05:41:30 AM »

Quote from: Allan L on March 15, 2015, 07:27:09 PM

Can't add more detail about the Scrimp, but I did have dealings with Brian Wilkinson in the mid-1960s and remember the business of having the engine converted to run backwards. Now, as then, I cannot understand why it was done that way rather than inverting the gearbox/final drive.
This photo (which was part of an early puzzle of mine) shows the converted pigsty in Steeple Morden where Wilkinson worked.

Thanks for sharing Allan, that is Ogle's 1500 right?

Delorean · « **Reply #1016 on:** March 16, 2015, 06:24:58 AM »

Would anybody have an idea what this 'Mercedes 220' would be? I saw it at a local carshow a few weeks back, but couldn't find any information for it. The owner didn't even have any papers on it, he found it in a shed ...

My guess is that's it a rebuild Lancia Aurelia B20 Coupé ...

Wendax · « **Reply #1017 on:** March 16, 2015, 06:38:37 AM »

Is the negative camber at the rear axle usual for Aurelias? Or is there a Mercedes axle (or more) underneath?
It is certainly a private Lancia-Mercedes mix.

Allan L · « **Reply #1018 on:** March 16, 2015, 08:04:12 AM »

Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 16, 2015, 05:41:30 AM

Quote from: Allan L on March 15, 2015, 07:27:09 PM
Can't add more detail about the Scrimp, but I did have dealings with Brian Wilkinson in the mid-1960s and remember the business of having the engine converted to run backwards. Now, as then, I cannot understand why it was done that way rather than inverting the gearbox/final drive.
This photo (which was part of an early puzzle of mine) shows the converted pigsty in Steeple Morden where Wilkinson worked.
Thanks for sharing Allan, that is Ogle's 1500 right?

Yes, and my puzzle was here:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=889.msg7429#msg7429

Carnut · « **Reply #1019 on:** March 16, 2015, 12:08:19 PM »

Quote from: kwgibbs on March 15, 2015, 03:05:37 PM

I believe I found the car that you requested more information on,it was called the Scrimp, or nicknamed as such,was built by Wilkinson Automotive Developments in Hertfordshire in 1965-66.It was commissioned by Alan Fraser,he apparently had commissioned several prototypes at the time,his chosen car was designed by Tom Killeen.Mr. Wilkinson had a small number of staff working for him at the time.The car was delivered to Mr. Fraser as a non runner. the information I have mentions that one of his engine people made the engine to run backwards,as the Imp engine and the box was reversed in the car (mid engine instead of rear engine),the car had a steel monocoque chassis with aluminum panels.The wheels were Hillman imp,the rear lights were Hillman hunter. The car was done in british racing green.,also the car apparently never had an official name,but nicknamed Scrimp.

The Scrimp is here:

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=18991.msg190870#msg190870

Allan L · « **Reply #1020 on:** March 16, 2015, 02:00:41 PM »

Quote from: Carnut on March 16, 2015, 12:08:19 PM

Quote from: kwgibbs on March 15, 2015, 03:05:37 PM
I believe I found the car that you requested more information on,it was called the Scrimp, or nicknamed as such,was built by Wilkinson Automotive Developments in Hertfordshire in 1965-66.It was commissioned by Alan Fraser,he apparently had commissioned several prototypes at the time,his chosen car was designed by Tom Killeen.Mr. Wilkinson had a small number of staff working for him at the time.The car was delivered to Mr. Fraser as a non runner. the information I have mentions that one of his engine people made the engine to run backwards,as the Imp engine and the box was reversed in the car (mid engine instead of rear engine),the car had a steel monocoque chassis with aluminum panels.The wheels were Hillman imp,the rear lights were Hillman hunter. The car was done in british racing green.,also the car apparently never had an official name,but nicknamed Scrimp.

The Scrimp is here:

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=18991.msg190870#msg190870

And in the first picture it's photographed in front of the same ex-pigsty as my Ogle!
Just a bit further to the left.

pnegyesi · « **Reply #1021 on:** March 19, 2015, 01:31:40 PM »

Do you recognise the badge? Thanks

Djetset · « **Reply #1022 on:** March 21, 2015, 11:33:01 AM »

I also attended the Antwerp classic car show a couple of weeks ago Delorean, and like you, I spotted the strange Lancia-Mercedes coupe cocktail, and took some almost identical photos.

From what i understand, c.1960 the owner of the Aurelia B20 - a Brussels-based pharmacist - suffered mechanical problems with the Lancia, so swopped its running gear for the stronger and more reliable Mercedes-Benz 220 to make a rather unusual marriage.

Djetset · « **Reply #1023 on:** May 31, 2015, 04:47:17 PM »

Does anyone know (and ideally have proof of) what this car is please?

It was found abandoned in Glasgow, Scotland, in the early 1990s. It possibly uses a Mini or Hillman Imp engine, either rear or mid-mounted, and around three examples are believed to have been made. Beyond that, I don't know much more, so any extra information will be much appreciated.

Thanks.

als15 · « **Reply #1024 on:** June 28, 2015, 10:55:52 AM »

Going ahead with Vignale book... This is a picture from their archive, supposed to be a "Vauxhall Viva De Luxe prototype". I'm not an expert enough of those (non Italian) cars. Can anyone, please, help me telling what's special in this car?

Thanks.

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