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Paul Jaray · « **Reply #400 on:** September 19, 2010, 08:04:46 AM »

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=8658.0

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #401 on:** September 26, 2010, 05:52:59 PM »

Quote from: Paul Jaray on September 19, 2010, 08:02:13 AM

Quote from: pnegyesi on September 13, 2010, 03:20:20 AM
Can you identify the cars or at least the country, where the photo was taken based on the number plate?

I spent some time looking through pictures of Simson-Supra's car, but can't find the same radiator so far..
Quote from: woodinsight on September 18, 2010, 05:26:54 PM
Has this car been featured or solved before?
I doubt it.

Probably I found this...I'll post a pic soon.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #402 on:** September 27, 2010, 05:23:57 AM »

Probably it's not...but I found some pictures of Leon Paulin cars without the badge in the centre of the radiator, the emblem of LP cars is the one in the 2nd pic and in another pic I found a pretty similar bumper....but still I'm not convinced.

Arunas · « **Reply #403 on:** October 05, 2010, 03:54:38 PM »

Is this car somewhere?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #404 on:** October 05, 2010, 03:56:38 PM »

No, it's not.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #405 on:** October 09, 2010, 12:41:18 PM »

..and what about this?
It was one of Otto's, but can't remember the name...

Allemano · « **Reply #406 on:** October 09, 2010, 03:48:37 PM »

sure one of Otto's, but I can't remember it's name either...

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #407 on:** October 10, 2010, 03:10:15 AM »

Quote from: Paul Jaray on October 09, 2010, 12:41:18 PM

..and what about this?
It was one of Otto's, but can't remember the name...

That's the Cosmic Invader

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=4493.msg28226#msg28226

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #408 on:** October 10, 2010, 03:13:32 AM »

Grazie!

barrett · « **Reply #409 on:** October 10, 2010, 06:52:46 AM »

Coachbuilder? Anyone?

Allemano · « **Reply #410 on:** October 10, 2010, 10:54:40 AM »

Quote from: barrett on October 10, 2010, 06:52:46 AM

Coachbuilder? Anyone?

It's also featured here: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=11762.msg96988#new
I don't know the coachbuilder for sure, but think it must be either a Spohn coachwork (GFK molded like the ugly VW) or a factory built Veritas.

barrett · « **Reply #411 on:** October 10, 2010, 02:18:28 PM »

I think that photo was taken at the most recent Essen show. Maybe someone got a closer look at it there? I did think that it was Spohn, and was hoping somebody could positively ID it so I could add it to the Postwar Spohn topic. I'm not familiar enough with factory built Veritas road cars, but it's a very different style from the ones I have seen before. It's also rather attractive, i'd hope you agree!

Allemano · « **Reply #412 on:** October 10, 2010, 02:35:43 PM »

Yes, now I remember seeing it in Essen as well, but as I already saw it at the "Meilenwerk" I didn't pay to much attention...

woodinsight · « **Reply #413 on:** October 10, 2010, 02:54:22 PM »

A Veritas with the same coachwork competed in the Monte Carlo Rally (car no: 283) in 1953.
Don't know if that helps to identify the coachbuilder though?

faksta · « **Reply #414 on:** October 11, 2010, 01:41:44 AM »

Probably this will help: http://www.prewarcar.com/postwarclassic/classifieds/ad26881.html

But I've found this page by 'Veritas Spohn' request, so it is just what I wanted to see, hope not a mistake.

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #415 on:** October 11, 2010, 04:48:27 AM »

My German is not good - does this help?

Allemano · « **Reply #416 on:** October 11, 2010, 05:31:25 AM »

Handmade manufactured in Meßkirch/Germany Veritas cars had in the early postwar years clearly dominated their class. Nevertheless the team around Ernst Loof went bankrupt in 1950. With help of new donors a new start should be made directly at the Nürburgring. The plans included a possible production of various closed and open models. Engine was the Veritas constructed, at the Heinkel factory built 2-liter six-cylinder that was modified to short-stroke in comparison with the former BMW engine. It developed up to 160 PS under race conditions.

The shown K3, three-seat coupe was produced only three times. Probably the exorbitant price of 21,500 DM made a significant quantity impossible. (Back then a Volkswagen Beetle cost only 4400 DM!)
It's appearantly the last original unrestored Veritas. After 40 years of storage the vehicle preserved details in a fascinating manner.

So, despite of interisting facts unfortunately nothing about the coachbuilder.

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #417 on:** October 11, 2010, 05:34:21 AM »

D'oh!

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #418 on:** October 18, 2010, 05:59:35 AM »

Has this one been solved - I can't find it...

Allemano · « **Reply #419 on:** October 18, 2010, 06:09:22 AM »

It's to find in my "Near Mint" (2nd Edition) group puzzle.

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=13346.0

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #420 on:** October 19, 2010, 04:33:12 AM »

I was late to the party again.

Oh well - it remains for sale, at a very high price.

grobmotorix · « **Reply #421 on:** October 25, 2010, 01:15:08 PM »

Veritas has left Meßkirch after 1951:

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"Veritas-Nürburgring (company) 2 Liter (1951-1953)
In the autumn of 1951 Ernst Loof moved into the former Auto-Union racing pits at the Nürburgring to carry on building his 2-liter Veritas cars.
The engines still were delivered by Heinkel, the bodies came from Spohn. The programm featured one coupé and one convertible, each available on a short and on a longer wheelbase chassis with 100HP and a race car with 120 or 150HP. Prices from 21.000 DM. But only 20 cars were the meager output. The Veritas-Nürburgring (company)had to be liquidated. The then german secretary of transport forced BMW to buy the rest of Ernst Loof´s fortune and they gave him a new job (unwillingly). He died just some years later"

This is my personal translation of a text in "Deutsche Autos seit 1945, Band 2" by Werner Oswald,.

So I´m quite sure that this is another Spohn-built body of a 1951-1953 Veritas-Nürburgring.

Only the Dyna-Veritas (1950-52) had Baur-built bodies. To produce them a separated joint venture company called "Veritas GmbH" was founded.
After the main Veritas company in Meßkirch went bankrupt in november 1950, a certain Mr. Lorenz Dietrich established a new company called "Dyna" at Baden-Baden. The Dyna/Veritas cars were built at the Baur/Stuttgart factory.

Arunas · « **Reply #422 on:** October 28, 2010, 04:00:53 PM »

Any ideas, please?

DeAutogids · « **Reply #423 on:** November 02, 2010, 03:44:41 PM »

The tractor seems to be a very famous one... Fordson

grobmotorix · « **Reply #424 on:** November 15, 2010, 10:10:57 AM »

The Veritas is still showcased at Meilenwerk/Düsseldorf.

I was able do do an interiour shot - much work and money has to be invested to make this a shop stopper again...

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