Author Topic: Solved -PJ710- B.G.M. (Brevetti Giuseppe Marotta) L'Aquila, 1947-1949  (Read 2942 times)

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What is this?
1 point for you!
It may be known with 3 different names.
Each one of them will earn you a temporary lock to finish it but only all 3 of them will give you a point
(That's just to avoid lucky random guesses...only if you know the car, you'll find all 3 of them)
Open to all of you!

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Re: PJ - 710
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2016, 01:35:05 PM »
Austin J40 Pedal Car
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Re: PJ - 710
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2016, 04:58:43 PM »
Not an Austin and not a pedal car. Not called J40.
The rest is correct.

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Re: PJ - 710
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2016, 12:20:45 PM »
Made in Europe ?

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Re: PJ - 710
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2016, 02:45:24 PM »
Yes.

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Re: PJ - 710
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2016, 04:29:32 AM »
Italian ?

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Re: PJ - 710
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2016, 05:17:44 AM »
Yes!

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Re: PJ - 710
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2016, 05:29:10 AM »
Is it a car for children or for adults ?

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Re: PJ - 710
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2016, 06:20:21 AM »
A real car. Like the Volugrafo or the Volpe.

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Re: PJ - 710
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2016, 02:34:07 AM »
Can the information be found online ?

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Re: PJ - 710
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2016, 03:23:11 AM »
Yes, but it won't be that easy ;)

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Re: PJ - 710
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2016, 07:47:21 AM »
was this little car a one-off?

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Re: PJ - 710
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2016, 08:10:18 AM »
This car was produced by a company.
This is the only pic I ever find of it but it shows the prototype. There is another pic of the 'final' version that is rather different, but that too remained a one-off.
This name can be found in some literature too, but not all sources mention it.

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Re: PJ - 710
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2016, 10:43:08 AM »
Could it be a BERTONI?

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Re: PJ - 710
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2016, 10:46:15 AM »
Not Bertoni.

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Re: PJ - 710
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2016, 11:11:18 AM »
A similar one was the Sicilian PULCINO also known as ARTESI, family name of its creator.

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Re: PJ - 710
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2016, 11:18:16 AM »
All good guesses, but not one of those.

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Re: PJ - 710
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2016, 02:26:33 AM »
Powered by a motorcycle engine ?

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Re: PJ - 710
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2016, 02:38:13 AM »
As you require 3 names related between let me propose: PARVA-MOTO FONGRI-FRATELLI GRIGNANI from Torino

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Re: PJ - 710
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2016, 04:21:35 AM »
Powered by a motorcycle engine ?
I have all the details of it but it's not reported if it's from a motorcycle.
As you require 3 names related between let me propose: PARVA-MOTO FONGRI-FRATELLI GRIGNANI from Torino
Another good guess, but it's not.
The 3 names are required just to avoid blind & lucky guesses. If you'll find one of them, you'll earn a lock to prove you find the car and it was not just a guess. Only the 3 names will give you the point but once there, it will be easy ;)

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Re: PJ - 710
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2016, 11:07:10 AM »
Those 3 names are: an acronym, builder's name and model's name.
They all can be found in the full name of this company, the latter being the city...

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Re: PJ - 710
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2016, 07:58:24 AM »
This is the final prototype:

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Re: PJ - 710
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2016, 07:54:41 AM »
This one is hard but not impossible.
This maker is not reported in books or magazines but if you looked for obscure Italian makers, you probably found out a paper with a bigger list where this name appears.

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Re: PJ - 710
« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2016, 03:20:23 AM »
Before or afther 1950?

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Re: PJ - 710
« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2016, 06:27:58 AM »
The prototype is from 1947 and the final version from 1949.
1949 is the year reported in one on-line source (but not too easy to find).
« Last Edit: August 26, 2016, 06:47:11 PM by Paul Jaray »