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Solved - MJW #954 - Rosengart Super 5 Estate 1949
« on: July 24, 2012, 02:12:10 PM »
This shouldn't be difficult either.
To gain a point identify the make, model and year.
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Re: MJW #954
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2012, 03:39:34 PM »
Moving up

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Re: MJW #954
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2012, 05:51:24 PM »
French?

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Re: MJW #954
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2012, 05:57:20 PM »

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Re: MJW #954
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2012, 03:35:20 PM »
It's a 'break' proposal of the Rosengart Super 5, presented by the Société industrielle de l'Ouest Parisien (SIOP), exibited at the Salon de Paris in 1949.

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Re: MJW #954
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2012, 03:41:33 PM »
It's a 'break' proposal of the Rosengart Super 5, presented by the Société industrielle de l'Ouest Parisien (SIOP), exibited at the Salon de Paris in 1949.
Yes that's the car!
I also have the model name Vivor but I don't know if that's correct.
Anyway another point for you.

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Re: MJW #954
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2012, 04:32:16 PM »
I also have the model name Vivor but I don't know if that's correct.

Vivor was the name of the production model that finally evolved out of these prototypes, but at this stage it wasn't a Vivor yet.

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Re: MJW #954
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2012, 05:21:49 PM »
I also have the model name Vivor but I don't know if that's correct.

Vivor was the name of the production model that finally evolved out of these prototypes, but at this stage it wasn't a Vivor yet.
Thanks Wendax, I'll modify the title

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Re: Solved - MJW #954 - Rosengart Super 5 Estate 1949
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2013, 02:03:54 PM »
My source claims it to be a one-off 1949 Rosengart LR-4 N2 station wagon:


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Re: Solved - MJW #954 - Rosengart Super 5 Estate 1949
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2013, 02:08:48 PM »
The Super 5 was the type LR 4 N2, so both names are correct. This wagon was a one-off shown at the 1949 Paris salon, finally emerging into the Break Vivor.

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Re: Solved - MJW #954 - Rosengart Super 5 Estate 1949
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2013, 02:30:55 PM »
Thank you!

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SAC#1534 / Rosengart LR4 RI break woody 1949
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2021, 12:36:26 PM »
Please , what is this car and from when !
« Last Edit: April 09, 2021, 05:46:35 AM by SACO »

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Re: SAC#1534
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2021, 09:52:40 AM »
Europe?
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: SAC#1534
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2021, 11:17:37 AM »
Yes !

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Re: SAC#1534
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2021, 11:26:03 AM »
Central Europe?
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: SAC#1534
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2021, 01:39:34 PM »
Not Central Europe !

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Re: SAC#1534
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2021, 02:22:24 PM »
West Europe?
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: SAC#1534
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2021, 02:20:58 AM »
Yes ! West Europe

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Re: SAC#1534
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2021, 12:00:07 PM »
France?
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: SAC#1534
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2021, 02:15:11 AM »
Yes !

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Re: SAC#1534
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2021, 07:36:53 AM »
Renault 300 kg
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: SAC#1534
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2021, 11:33:42 AM »
Not a Renault !

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Re: SAC#1534
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2021, 11:54:34 AM »
Experts !

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Re: SAC#1534
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2021, 12:18:22 PM »
Ford France?
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: SAC#1534
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2021, 04:32:28 PM »
Simca ?