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SOLVED: FW #109 Büssing 4500 TM, bodywork by Karosseriewerke Eislingen, 1955
« on: February 14, 2021, 02:21:18 PM »
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Please identify this truck for one point
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Re: FW #109
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2021, 05:34:35 PM »
Büssing 4000 T, coachbuilder was Staufen.
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: FW #109
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2021, 05:39:59 PM »
Only Büssing is correct
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Re: FW #109
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2021, 06:02:54 PM »
Ackermann?
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: FW #109
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2021, 03:36:57 AM »
No
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Re: FW #109
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2021, 05:28:01 AM »
Is it at all a german coachbuilder?
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: FW #109
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2021, 09:01:04 AM »
Yes
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Re: FW #109
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2021, 09:58:02 AM »
If I understand you correctly, the Vehicle type is not correct. For furniture transport are often used omnibus chassis and the ground clearance looks like such a version. So might be a 5000 TU (1949-1951) or a TU (1951-1952) with a body by Lamperhoff.
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: FW #109
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2021, 03:21:36 PM »
Neither 5000TU nor Lamperhoff is correct
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Re: FW #109
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2021, 05:36:01 PM »
Also no TU?
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Re: FW #109
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2021, 04:52:42 AM »
Yes
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Re: FW #109
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2021, 05:58:53 AM »
Since I am missing the picture I must guess a bitt.The radiator grille looks more like 6000 T than 5000 T. So, it might be the
6 t-version. And on the occasion here the next furniture coachbuilder: Schmitz.
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Re: FW #109
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2021, 02:47:25 PM »
Sorry, it is not an 6000 T, not 5000 T, and not from Schmitz....
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Re: FW #109
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2021, 05:28:04 PM »
It's a Mercedes with fake radiator grille...
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Re: FW #109
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2021, 05:37:37 PM »
But seriously: I am still sure, that is a coach-chassis. Then only 4500 T and TU 5 remain.
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Re: FW #109
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2021, 03:17:25 AM »
It is a 4500 T(.)?

(.) = additional letter
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Re: FW #109
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2021, 05:29:16 AM »
That leaves only the 4500 TU. But none of my sources know this version.
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Re: FW #109
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2021, 06:55:12 AM »
Not 4500 TU
But I agree with you. Me too, never heard about the requested nomenclature before, stated by the owner of the truck
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Re: FW #109
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2021, 07:27:27 AM »
4500 TT from the Isle of Man.
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Re: FW #109
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2021, 07:56:00 AM »
Earlier in the alphabet than T
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Re: FW #109
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2021, 08:39:00 AM »
TL (liegend)?
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Re: FW #109
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2021, 09:24:46 AM »
I just found a 4000 TS with body by Vetter. "S" meanes Switzerland, 2,25 m wide, so called "Schweitzer Breite" (Schweitzer width).
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Re: FW #109
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2021, 04:09:56 PM »
Not L, not S, not 4000, not Vetter
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Re: FW #109
« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2021, 04:45:48 PM »
4500 TE? Coachbuilder from the south of Germany?
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Re: FW #109
« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2021, 05:51:27 PM »
4500T(.), but not "E". I feel bad in European geography, but, I think, the coachbuilder is from the south of Germany
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