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Re: FVK_35
« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2021, 10:29:32 AM »

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Re: FVK_35
« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2021, 10:38:46 AM »
There is no exact information, but I think she only put bodies on a German chassis for about five years. The company still exists today.

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Re: FVK_35
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2021, 10:48:28 AM »
Rosenbauer?

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Re: FVK_35
« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2021, 11:06:07 AM »
No

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Re: FVK_35
« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2021, 09:57:34 PM »
1905-1907?

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Re: FVK_35
« Reply #30 on: February 15, 2021, 10:00:49 PM »
Yes

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Re: FVK_35
« Reply #31 on: February 15, 2021, 11:09:35 PM »
Ph. Brunnbauer & Sohn?
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Re: FVK_35
« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2021, 09:50:23 AM »
No

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Re: FVK_35
« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2021, 03:05:54 PM »
There is no exact information, but I think she only put bodies on a German chassis for about five years. The company still exists today.
Has the company also manufactured motorcycles?

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Re: FVK_35
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2021, 03:38:04 PM »
Yes

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Re: FVK_35
« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2021, 04:55:40 PM »
Hofmann & Czerny/Continental?

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Re: FVK_35
« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2021, 10:58:37 PM »
No

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Re: FVK_35
« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2021, 12:00:09 AM »
From Austria?
Yes

Do you mean the Austrian part of the former Austro-Hungarian Monarchy or the territory which is today the Czech Republic?
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Re: FVK_35
« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2021, 12:46:19 AM »
Territory of Austria

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Re: FVK_35
« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2021, 01:49:52 PM »
Spitz?

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Re: FVK_35
« Reply #40 on: July 01, 2021, 11:21:21 AM »
No.

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Re: FVK_35
« Reply #41 on: July 02, 2021, 04:05:00 AM »
Noricum?

Opel-Darracq by Opel & Beyschlag 1906 Vienna, Austria
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Re: FVK_35
« Reply #42 on: July 02, 2021, 09:57:01 AM »
Another ad

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Re: FVK_35
« Reply #43 on: July 02, 2021, 10:45:36 AM »
Well, finally, I wanted to send it to the black hole. Congratulations! In my source signed as Opel & Bayschlag
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Re: FVK_35 Opel & Bayschlag 10-12ps Doppel-Phaethon 1906
« Reply #44 on: July 02, 2021, 10:52:43 AM »
Thanks for the point!

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Re: FVK_35 Opel & Bayschlag 10-12ps Doppel-Phaethon 1906
« Reply #45 on: July 02, 2021, 12:34:30 PM »
Are you sure that Opel & Beyschlag was anything more than a dealer? I can find no mention of any automobile production by them. I think they just produced some motorbikes in their early days. They surely were the first Opel dealers outside Germany, but even Austro Classic doesn't mention any car production by them. The old ad in the previous post also just mentions that they have been able to import some Opel-Darracqs before the custom fees were raised.

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Re: FVK_35 Opel & Bayschlag 10-12ps Doppel-Phaethon 1906
« Reply #46 on: July 02, 2021, 01:27:53 PM »
Maybe so, but in the statistics of the race Das Semmering Rennen 1907 it is written like this

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Re: FVK_35 Opel & Bayschlag 10-12ps Doppel-Phaethon 1906
« Reply #47 on: July 02, 2021, 01:57:14 PM »
At first I want to inform you, that the correct spelling of "Opel & Beyschlag" was ever and is: Opel & Beyschlag! For 100 percent sureness.

Secondly, in my opinion, there is a linguistic misunderstanding, depending the 'reading the statistics of the 'Semmering Rennen 1907':

Opel & Beyschlag's Darracq (Robert Koch), means: Entered by: Opel & Beyschlag (correctly written!), Car: Darracq, Driver: Robert Koch
Compare with line above:
Max Klug's Sizaire & Naudin (Max Klug), which means: Entered by: Max Klug, Car: Sizaire & Naudin, Driver: Max Klug

In my opinion, 'Opel & Beyschlag' never produced cars. Only motorcycles (1904+). But I will go on searching. Sometimes miracles will happen...
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Re: FVK_35 Opel & Bayschlag 10-12ps Doppel-Phaethon 1906
« Reply #48 on: July 02, 2021, 02:21:53 PM »
Maybe they didn't release them, but they could put their bodies on German chassis.

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Re: FVK_35 Opel & Bayschlag 10-12ps Doppel-Phaethon 1906
« Reply #49 on: July 02, 2021, 03:32:26 PM »
Here is a description of the company from 1905 - no mention of any coachbuilding activities

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