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Re: si_282
« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2022, 09:12:53 AM »
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_282
« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2022, 12:34:07 PM »
F4M
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Re: si_282
« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2022, 12:38:15 PM »
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_282
« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2022, 02:36:06 PM »
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Re: si_282
« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2022, 02:52:29 PM »
Sorry, error in my reply to #26: It is a F4M, but 3 digits are still missing.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2022, 07:18:47 AM »
F4M514
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« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2022, 07:29:29 AM »
Almost, it's a F4M51*
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_282
« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2022, 12:48:27 PM »
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« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2022, 05:34:01 PM »
Yes, it is a F4M517 and now only a few details are missing...
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_282
« Reply #34 on: August 11, 2022, 01:31:25 AM »
1936
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« Reply #35 on: August 11, 2022, 07:00:08 AM »
A little bit later.
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2022, 09:28:19 AM »
1937
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« Reply #37 on: August 11, 2022, 09:48:26 AM »
Development began in 1937, what was the production situation like?
Edit: Apart from the type designation with letters and numbers, the vehicle also had a name.
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_282
« Reply #38 on: August 11, 2022, 12:36:28 PM »
Quote from: sichel on August 11, 2022, 09:48:26 AM
Development began in 1937, what was the production situation like?
Edit: Apart from the type designation with letters and numbers, the vehicle also had a name.

what do you mean ?
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Re: si_282
« Reply #39 on: August 11, 2022, 01:03:12 PM »
Was it a regular serial product? When I get more precise, I'll reveal the solution.
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_282
« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2022, 02:26:10 PM »
It's definitely not a stock product.
Rather a unique piece made by the user?
But I don't have anything more about him
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« Reply #41 on: August 11, 2022, 02:51:13 PM »
No unique piece, no selfmade product, only a very small number of pieces. Do you have an idea for an explanation?
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_282
« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2022, 01:41:35 AM »
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« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2022, 04:52:07 AM »
As you have answered the basic questions (manufacturer, type designation) one point is due for this.
Since the history of this vehicle is rather complicated, there is another point for the member that sheds light on the darkness (production period, number of units...).
For the sake of simplicity, I'll move it to the masters.
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Re: si_282
« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2022, 04:59:46 AM »
Thank you for this point
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Re: si_282
« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2022, 08:02:01 PM »
I am confused. F4M517 is also a designation for a Deutz diesel engine.  Are you looking for Schnell-Schlepper?
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« Reply #46 on: August 14, 2022, 08:43:31 PM »
There were tax incentives for the design of high-speed tractors around 1938, with the thought that they could be requisitioned for military use if war started.  This led to several similar vehicles from Büssing, Faun, Kaelble, MAN, and others as well as the less common Deutz F4M517 displayed at the International Automobile Exposition in 1938.
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Re: si_282
« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2022, 03:54:17 AM »
Don't forget Hanomag! Bur you are on the right way. Any ideas about the production figures?
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_282
« Reply #48 on: August 15, 2022, 09:15:28 AM »
Was there only one made?
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Re: si_282
« Reply #49 on: August 15, 2022, 11:38:49 AM »
This came more from the tractor world than from the truck world.
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