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This would make an interesting puzzle: "What crashed car is this?"
« on: November 10, 2008, 12:10:46 AM »
For instance, here is a Monteverdi (model unknown).



Or perhaps the question: What chassis is this?


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Re: This would make an interesting puzzle: "What crashed car is this?"
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2008, 02:46:47 AM »
That chassis looks to be filled with a 426 Hemi Mopar motor.
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Re: This would make an interesting puzzle: "What crashed car is this?"
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2008, 02:58:34 AM »
Quote from: Ultra on November 10, 2008, 02:46:47 AM
That chassis looks to be filled with a 426 Hemi Mopar motor.

either 426 or 440. I though Monteverdi used 440 exclusively?
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Re: This would make an interesting puzzle: "What crashed car is this?"
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2008, 03:28:10 AM »
That's definetely the Monteverdi Hai chassis.
You can see the Monteverdi badge on the upright square tube behind the front wheel
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Re: This would make an interesting puzzle: "What crashed car is this?"
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2008, 03:41:57 AM »
X-ray picture:
The illustration was made by Swiss Automobil Revue, so, it slightly differs from the original Trevor Fiore* drawing. The massive square tube frame and the high built gray iron 440 Magnum engine without dry sump extended the weight of the car from (official) 1290kg to (inofficial) 1700kg. All of the official specification were wrong.
Famous motor journalist Paul Frere tested the car back then:
V(max): 270km/h (official 290km/h)
Acceleration (0-100km/h) : 6,7s (official 4,9s) ~ Porsche 2,4S with 190PS (!)

The whole story of the car is merely a story of lies and deception!

*Head of Monteverdi Peter Monteverdi always claimed he himself designed the Hai body, but it actually was Trevor Fiore!

As I've told before I'd like to write a special feature about the Hai, but it will take some time....
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Re: This would make an interesting puzzle: "What crashed car is this?"
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2008, 03:44:09 AM »
I'd be very  surprised if that crashed car is a Monteverdi. His cars (and trucks), with the exception of his early roadsters and the Hai 650 F1, had very angular window frames.

There was a puzzle of a similar nature a while back, featuring a selection of dilapidated and sometimes crumpled cars:

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=3904.0
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Re: This would make an interesting puzzle: "What crashed car is this?"
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2008, 03:45:25 AM »
Quote from: Bezor on November 10, 2008, 02:58:34 AM
Quote from: Ultra on November 10, 2008, 02:46:47 AM
That chassis looks to be filled with a 426 Hemi Mopar motor.

either 426 or 440. I though Monteverdi used 440 exclusively?

I guaran-damn-tee that isn't a 440.  The 440 doesn't run the spark plugs through the valve cover.

440 Wedge


426 Hemi
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Re: This would make an interesting puzzle: "What crashed car is this?"
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2008, 04:09:39 AM »
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on November 10, 2008, 03:44:09 AM
I'd be very  surprised if that crashed car is a Monteverdi. His cars (and trucks), with the exception of his early roadsters and the Hai 650 F1, had very angular window frames.

Such mirrors were never used on Monteverdi cars!
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Re: This would make an interesting puzzle: "What crashed car is this?"
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2008, 04:19:47 AM »
The huge 7-liter engine is housed between (!) the passenger's seats. That's why the car has a very high center of gravity.
Also the rattling sound of the V8 is described as rather disappointing.
Apologise the cropped pic. I've scanned it from a German automotive magazine.
Think it's quite impressive, though! Don't drive topless with long armpit hair and open hood!
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Re: This would make an interesting puzzle: "What crashed car is this?"
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2008, 07:02:31 PM »
Quote from: Allemano on November 10, 2008, 04:19:47 AM
The huge 7-liter engine is housed between (!) the passenger's seats. That's why the car has a very high center of gravity.
Also the rattling sound of the V8 is described as rather disappointing.
Apologise the cropped pic. I've scanned it from a German automotive magazine.
Think it's quite impressive, though! Don't drive topless with long armpit hair and open hood!

WOW!

Very interesting scan. 

Thanks Ultra for the pix of a 426 v. 440.

Now I'm not so sure that crashed car is a Monteverdi....like Otto pointed out.
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Re: This would make an interesting puzzle: "What crashed car is this?"
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2008, 04:30:42 AM »
At first, I thought it was a generic sedan, based on the open door. Upon closer inspection, the top section of frame above the window looks really short (front to back).
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Re: This would make an interesting puzzle: "What crashed car is this?"
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2013, 08:07:34 AM »
Picture has gone missing.  Can it be found again?
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Re: This would make an interesting puzzle: "What crashed car is this?"
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2013, 12:51:27 PM »
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Quote from: sixtee5cuda on July 09, 2013, 08:07:34 AM
Picture has gone missing.  Can it be found again?

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Re: This would make an interesting puzzle: "What crashed car is this?"
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2013, 12:53:26 PM »
Here's the frame pic

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