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Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
« Reply #75 on: January 31, 2010, 08:19:08 PM »
Bourbon comes from outside of Kentucky as well and it is a statement of fact, not a comparison, that Tennessee whiskey is bourbon that has undergone the Lincoln County process.  The Lincoln process is what is referred to as "charcoal mellowing" on the side of a bottle of Jack.    Bourbon is the tightest regulated spirit in the world. It has to be distilled from a min of 51% corn and it has to be aged in new oak barrels for a minimum of two years. There is no law stating bourbon come from Kentucky and it has a history in the states of Pennsylvania and Virginia as well. 

No one can tell you which whiskey will wow you because everyones palate is different. If you tell me spirits you have enjoyed I can make recommendations.
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Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
« Reply #76 on: January 31, 2010, 09:23:26 PM »
Well, it's been a few months and a few bottles since I graduated from bartending school....I may be confusing the inclusion of the state on the label for calling it a "bourbon"...

There aren't many spirits I have made a habit of drinking by themselves. I stumbled on vodka lemonades about a year ago and really enjoy that. I was into vodka and Coke for a while. In those instances, however, I am looking for something that isn't going to compete with the mixer.

I pretty much don't care for wine at any level.

I've always been a beer drinker. I prefer German beers, usually, but I do like Shiner Bock or Sam Adams if I am drinking domestic. I like the smokey flavor of Kostritzer, or the standard smooth flavor of Paulaner Pils and Oktoberfest.

Typing all of that out, I realize it comes down to aftertaste. I prefer drinks that have little or no flavor after it is swallowed.
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Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
« Reply #77 on: January 31, 2010, 09:38:26 PM »
Typing all of that out, I realize it comes down to aftertaste. I prefer drinks that have little or no flavor after it is swallowed.

Jameson's.  Tullamore Dew.  Canadian Club.  Bernheim's Wheat Whiskey.  Weller Special Reserve Bourbon, 7 yrs.  Any of those might work for you.  Jameson's is one of the largest selling whiskies in the world.
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Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
« Reply #78 on: February 01, 2010, 02:27:38 AM »
I'm drinking Evan Williams single barrel right now.

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Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
« Reply #79 on: February 01, 2010, 02:32:02 AM »
I'm drinking Evan Williams single barrel right now.

Vanilla over hints of oak and smoke.   A fine Bourbon and a great deal.
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Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
« Reply #80 on: February 02, 2010, 08:46:56 PM »
Added 8 new whiskies since my last update. 

Parker Beam's golden anniversary bourbon
Rittenhouse Rye 25yr
Elijah Craig 12yr
Sam Houston
Charter 101
Ancient Age 10 star
Old Forrester Signature bourbon
Old Fitzgerald

Here is the current list:

 Bourbon

    Bulleit
    Wild Turkey 101
    Wild Turkey Rare Breed
    Wild Turkey Kentucky Spirit
    Woodford Reserve
    Jim Beam
    Jim Beam Black 8 yr
    Henry McKenna BIB 10 yr Single Barrel
    Old Grand Dad BIB
    Old Grand Dad 114
    Old Forester Birthday Bourbon
    Old Forester (86 proof)
    Old Forrester Signature bourbon
    Basil Hayden 8 yr
    Evan Williams Single Barrel 1997
    Evan Williams Single Barrel 2000
    Ezra B. 12 year old
    Ezra Brooks
    Elmer T Lee
    Buffalo Trace
    Eagle Rare 10 yr
    Fighting Cock
    Elijah Craig 12 yr
    Elijah Craig 18 yr
    Bookers
    George T Stagg 2009 15 yr old Uncut and Unfiltered
    Woodford Reserve Masters Collection Seasoned Oak Finish
    Russell's Reserve 10 yr
    Weller Special Reserve 7 yr
    Makers Mark Red Wax
    Rebel Yell Reserve
    Jefferson's Presidential Reserve 17 yr
    Hancock Reserve
    Rock Hill Farms
    Jefferson's Reserve
    Parker Beam's golden anniversary bourbon
    Sam Houston
    Charter 101
    Ancient Age 10 star
    Old Fitzgerald

    Tennessee

    Jack Daniels Single Barrel
    Gentlemen Jack
    Jack Daniels
    George Dickel #12

    Rye

    Wild Turkey 101
    Russell's Reserve 6 yr
    Thomas Handy Sazerac Rye 2009 6 yr old uncut and unfiltered
    Rittenhouse Rye 25yr

    Wheat

    Bernheim's Wheat Whiskey

    American Blended

    Seagram's 7
    Kessler

    Scotch

    Single Malt

    Glenlivet 21 yr Archive
    Glenmorangie Port 12 yr
    Glenmorangie Sherry 12 yr
    Glenmorangie Madeira 12 yr
    Glenmorangie Burgundy 12 yr
    Glendronach 12 yr
    McClellan 10 yr Sherry Finish
    Caol Ila 14 yr
    Talisker 10 yr
    Lagavulin 16 yr
    Glenfiddich 12 yr
    Glenlivet Nadurra 16 yr
    Yamazaki 12 yr

    Blended

    Chivas Regal Royal Salute 21 yr
    Chivas Regal 12
    Dewar's White
    Johnnie Walker Black

    Irish

    Redbreast 12
    Bushmills
    Blackbush
    Bushmills 16
    Jameson
    Jameson 12 yr
    Tullamore Dew

    Canadian

    Forty Creek Port Wood Reserve
    Forty Creek Double Barrel Reserve
    Forty Creek Barrel Select
    CC 8 yr w/Sherry finish
    Crown Royal

    Ordered and waiting on arrival:

    Sazerac 18 yr Rye
    William Larue Weller
    Old Charter
    Old Whiskey River
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Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
« Reply #81 on: February 02, 2010, 09:31:48 PM »
Boxer, Dan Speed and I tried a LOT of Whiskies last night. Then we all passed out watching LeMans. By starting those two off early in the night there is hope they will be up for the rally.

And damned if we didn't make it to a stunning 3 out of 21 stages. It tasted like whiskey.
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Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
« Reply #82 on: February 02, 2010, 09:33:03 PM »
Good Whiskey.  ;D
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Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
« Reply #83 on: February 03, 2010, 05:33:56 PM »
Boxer, Dan Speed and I tried a LOT of Whiskies last night. Then we all passed out watching LeMans. By starting those two off early in the night there is hope they will be up for the rally.

And damned if we didn't make it to a stunning 3 out of 21 stages. It tasted like whiskey.

I can confirm that I was literally SWEATING whiskey while walking to and from the stages under a half dozen layers. What a fun weekend.

P.S. - could I get a rundown of the whiskies I tasted the other night?
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Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
« Reply #84 on: February 03, 2010, 06:33:39 PM »
From memory

Bernheims Wheat
Forty Creek Bouble Barrel Reserve
Weller 7 yr Bourbon
Bushmills 16
Chivas Regal Royal Salute
George T Stagg
Wild Turkey Rare Breed
Jack Daniels Single Barrel
Evan Williams Single Barrel
Ezra B 12 yr Single Barrel
Old Forester Birthday Bourbon
Yamasaki 12 yr

There may have been others. I cannot recall at the moment.
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Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
« Reply #85 on: February 05, 2010, 02:40:44 AM »
Rittenhouse Rye 25 yr.  Barrel #2.  Bottle 58

A special treat.  Nosing the whiskey brings caramel and oak with some fruit notes - dates, figs and maybe ripe pears. There is a little of the sweet spice hiding in the back - maybe nutmeg.     Tasting brings a very nice mouth feel showing the un-chill filtered aspect of the whiskey and making it pleasantly oily. There is no fire in the whiskey, but there is a nice pleasant warmth. It has the rich fruit and caramel flavor of an older rye whiskey with a bit of old leather and tobacco with just a hint of oak tannins that do give it a bit of the bitter associated with tannins, but not overwhelmingly so.  A nice long finish with sweet spice and caramel leading into a an oak wood.  One of  the finest most enjoyable whiskeys I have ever drank.
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Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
« Reply #87 on: February 12, 2010, 02:34:15 AM »
This is some impressive shit.  My snifter and I are enjoying it very much right now.
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HEAVEN HILL DISTILLERIES ANNOUNCES RELEASE OF THE THIRD EDITION OF "PARKER'S HERITAGE COLLECTION" AMERICAN WHISKEY SERIES

2009 "Golden Anniversary" Bottling Celebrates Master Distiller Parker Beam's 50 Years of Craftsmanship

BARDSTOWN, KY--Heaven Hill Distilleries, Inc., the country's largest independent family-owned and operated spirits producer and marketer, announces the September release of the third edition of Parker's Heritage Collection, a limited annual series of rare, aged American Whiskeys that pays tribute to 6th Generation Master Distiller Parker Beam. The third release, the 2009 "Golden Anniversary" edition, specifically celebrates Parker's 50 years as a distiller, beginning in 1960, by marrying Bourbons from each of his five decades of craftsmanship in a rare and limited bottling.

The 2009 release of Parker's Heritage Collection comes on the heels of two of Heaven Hill's most highly acclaimed whiskeys, the barrel-proof 11-year-old 2007 edition Bourbon that was named one of Malt Advocate "Top Ten New Whiskies of 2007" and placed #21 in F. Paul Pacult's "111 Best Whiskeys, Brandies, Liqueurs and White Spirits in the World", and the 27-year-old 2008 Bourbon that won Best of Show, Brown Spirits at the most recent San Francisco World Spirits Competition and was named "North American Whiskey of the Year" by Malt Advocate. The Golden Anniversary edition will be offered nationally in a 750ml bottle, like the previous two Parker's Heritage Collection releases, and will be bottled at 100 proof with an average retail price of $150. The entire production run will only number 1500 three bottle cases, which will be allocated across the country and in select international markets and which will undoubtedly sell out as quickly as the previous editions.

Only Heaven Hill Distilleries, with the world's second largest inventory of aging Bourbon and nearly 50% of the world's supply of Bourbon barrels over 8 years old, could bring these rare and aged whiskeys to market. Parker Beam, along with his son Craig, oversees one of the world's most highly esteemed distilling operations, where renowned brands such as Elijah Craig, Old Fitzgerald, and Evan Williams, the world's second largest selling Bourbon, are produced according to Parker and Craig's seven-generation- old family recipe and yeast strain. Aged in traditional open-rick warehouses in Nelson County, the Bourbons used to make the Golden Anniversary edition were personally selected and married together by Parker, with the majority of the whiskey aged 10 to 20 years, and much lesser amounts of older whiskey.
To create the rare marriage of whiskeys, barrels from the 1970's and 80's were pulled from a variety of 3rd floor locations where temperatures are more variable. Barrels from the 1990's and 2000's were pulled from the highest floors in the rickhouse where greater temperature swings promote the aging process. These were combined with a very small amount of Bourbon from the 1960's to complete the five decade blend.

"This superlative Bourbon, a fitting tribute to an industry icon, has been 50 years in the making," commented Susan Wahl, brand manager for whiskeys at Heaven Hill. "The superior quality of the whiskey, its scarcity, and the fact that it is in recognition of a beloved figure in the American distilling industry should combine to make this a highly-sought after bottling."

Packaged in the same bottle as the 2007 and 2008 editions, the Parker's Heritage Collection Golden Anniversary bottling carries a distinctive gold and buff face label rather than the black and gold label of the previous two releases. It also features the cork closure and black and gold capsule of the prior Cask Strength and 27-Year-Old versions.

"I'm honored that Heaven Hill is recognizing my 50 years with this bottling, and I'm also excited that I was able to select and combine Bourbons of such varying ages," stated Parker Beam. "This was a fun and rewarding project and I hope everyone agrees with me that we have created a very special Bourbon, with blending unlike any other."

Future editions of Parker's Heritage Collection, to be released annually every Fall, will feature unique expressions of American Whiskey styles drawn from Heaven Hill's inventory of more than 700,000 aging barrels. Heaven Hill, as the only remaining national distiller that produces Bourbon, Rye, Corn and Wheat Whiskeys (Tennessee Whiskey being the remaining straight whiskey type, which must by law be made in Tennessee), has in its rickhouses more American Whiskey styles/types than any other producer--barrels that would typically be dumped for acclaimed brands like Evan Williams and Elijah Craig Bourbon, Rittenhouse Rye, Bernheim Original Wheat Whiskey and Mellow Corn Corn Whiskey.

But Parker Beam, who oversees all aspects of whiskey production, aging and selection at Heaven Hill alongside his son Craig, much as Parker did with his father Earl, has earmarked select barrels of each of these styles to be dumped for future editions of Parker's Heritage Collection.
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Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
« Reply #88 on: February 12, 2010, 03:19:51 AM »
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Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
« Reply #89 on: February 16, 2010, 01:21:24 AM »
Didn't try the Compass Box yet, huh Ultra?

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Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
« Reply #90 on: February 16, 2010, 08:01:37 AM »
They don't sell it in Michigan. Gotta leave the state to get a bottle.
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Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
« Reply #91 on: February 20, 2010, 08:43:42 PM »
Just had a Scotch & Coke. I had one of those little (1.5 oz?) bottles of Dewar's White that I poured in with a 12oz Mexican Coke. Not too bad...A little less Scotch or a 20oz Coke would probably be a little better ratio...
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Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
« Reply #92 on: March 02, 2010, 03:43:23 PM »
That is a mixed drink.   This thread is about Whisk(e)y.

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Added a Laird's 7.5 year old Apple Brandy to go with The Irishman Single Malt, Rogue Dead Guy Whiskey and a bottle of (ri)1.

The Laird's is sublime and wonderful.  Can't recommend it enough.  The Rogue is more like Tequila and not to my taste.  The Irishman is a perfect example of what a non-peated Single Malt Irish Whiskey tastes like.  Delicate and smooth with hints of nuts and a slight floral character.   The (ri)1 is not complex but very nice on the palate if a little over-priced for what it is.

Also got a week or so ago a Weller Antique 107.  The first wheater bourbon I could see as a regular pour based on taste, flavor and price.  I really like it.
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Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
« Reply #93 on: March 02, 2010, 03:52:09 PM »
What do you know about Dewar's White Label? Now that I've had that, I can relate a little better to your description of the flavors.
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Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
« Reply #94 on: March 03, 2010, 08:09:12 PM »
What do you know about Dewar's White Label? Now that I've had that, I can relate a little better to your description of the flavors.

Dewar's is a Blended Scotch.  It combines the smoke and peat of Islay single malts with the milder flavors of Highland and Speyside malts.  I haven't had a dram of Dewar's in 10 to 20 years and I don't have any current bottlings of White Label. 

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Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
« Reply #95 on: March 10, 2010, 05:28:22 PM »
The Four Roses, Four Roses Single Barrel and Four Roses Small Batch came in today. I am really impressed with my initial impressions of this stuff.
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Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
« Reply #96 on: April 04, 2010, 07:39:26 PM »
That is a mixed drink.   This thread is about Whisk(e)y.

Added a Laird's 7.5 year old Apple Brandy to go with The Irishman Single Malt,

The Weller has me interested.  I replaced my long-ago drained bottle of Yamazaki, I'm such a fan of that Whiskey.  So subtle and I love BIG smack-mouth whiskey, which the Yamazaki isn't.

Speaking of Apples,  I need to go hunting for some ApfelKorn.

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Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
« Reply #97 on: April 10, 2010, 03:42:25 AM »
So subtle and I love BIG smack-mouth whiskey, which the Yamazaki isn't.


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Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
« Reply #98 on: May 02, 2010, 10:47:27 PM »
The only way someone could think of the Grand Traverse Distillery as a let down is if they judge a book by it's industrial park cover.



The folks there use the still to cook up a lot more than just the vodka that got the distillery on the map.



All of their whiskeys are made from White Dog that is distilled separately.  They market at the distillery the requisite 1, 2, 3, 5, and 10 liter barrels and they can sell you White Dog varieties in

Wheat,



Rye,



Corn,



Malted Barley and



Peated Malted Barley:



All in White Dog form for you to mix up your own batches of Whiskey.

Imagine, if you will, a Peated Barley Bourbon.   :skep:

Aged Whiskey

    Here  at the distillery we are excited about whiskey! Whiskey has such a  range of flavors and character that the possibilities are endless. Our  first idea is to bring back a traditional early American whiskey, rye.  Americans enjoyed rye whiskey before prohibition. Rye whiskey offers a  unique flavor that is one of a kind. Early Americans did not ask for a  shot of corn whiskey, they asked for a shot of rye. Corn liquor did not  take off until after the repeal of prohibition. America has thousands of  small distillers but the large fee placed on distilleries by the  federal government after prohibition eliminated most of them. What was  left were the “big boys” and corn cost less than rye.. Distilling corn  for whiskey offers a much more neutral spirit vs. rye. We have gone back  to the roots of American whiskey and will offer a 100% rye whiskey. We  take great care in distilling our rye whiskey, and placed it into new  American oak charred barrels. Here the whiskey reacts with the charred  barrel and the result is a unique whiskey experience.  We are looking  forward to introducing these unique whiskey sometime in 2010.
    We also have put up a bourbon style whiskey and are using rye as the  flavor component. Corn, rye and malted barley are the grains. Corn must  be the main grain to be classified bourbon. Our bourbon style whiskey  is now aging in barrels.  We are looking forward to introducing these  unique whiskey sometime in 2011.
    A 2nd straight rye whiskey is being barreled at this time. We are  using blend of 60% rye and 40% corn. It will offer a different flavor  profile than our first 100% rye whiskey. We are looking forward to  introducing these unique whiskey sometime in 2011.
    As soon as we empty our whiskey barrels we will be distilling a 100%  malted barley whiskey and offer something for those who enjoy a single  malt whiskey (scotch). A straight wheat whiskey will also be in the  works within the year. We will keep you informed on our whiskey  adventures with our newsletter  so please sign up.


Anywho, it was great fun to visit Michigan's largest distillery and check it all out.  While I was there I asked about getting some of their new rye in a barrel proof and they said that when the next batch of barrels are gotten into they might just be releasing some. 

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Re: Let's talk about Whiskies
« Reply #99 on: May 02, 2010, 11:25:22 PM »
Ole George 100% Straight Rye Whiskey is here! Come to the distillery and preview Ole George Whiskey, 93 proof and bottled straight from the barrel, no chill filtering for our whiskey.  At this time we only have 3 of the 53 gallon barrels ready so we are only available at the distillery. Next year we have a dozen 53 gallon barrels aged and at this time we will go to to the Michigan and Chicago retail markets.  We are open Thursday and Friday from noon to 5PM and on Saturday from 11AM to 4PM. Come see us and tour the distillery. Ole George is ready when you are.

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Old George is $48.  $50.88 including the sales tax.

Old George went into the barrels Feb 2008.  Only the 3 barrels from the top of the warehouse have been opened.  The rest are still aging.

Ole George doesn't fool you into thinking it is an old whiskey.  However, one can mistake it for older than 2 years.  I have read somewhere that of all the whiskey varieties rye's can turn out well with the least amount of aging and this whiskey is a testament to that idea.  It is floral and fruity with just a slight rye spice. Kind of reminded me of Yamazaki 12.  Oak is there and then its gone but only a little char and smoke. Very well balanced.  Lot of flavor for a 93 proof whiskey.     I have won over a non whiskey drinker with it already.  She commented on the floral quality, some sweetness and how smooth it was on her palate.  She proceeded to have a couple glasses.

I would recommend it to anyone without reservation.  A good product.
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