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The most complete car encyclopedia book series , with more than 10.000 car brands and 50.000 car models.

How it all started.
 Although, during the communist era, the car information had very limited sources, which were resumed in my country to a single car magazine, a yearly book and few collectible car photos from "Turbo" chewing gum,  i was very attracted by this as a hobby and soon, after 1989 and the fell of the "iron curtain", i had instant access to a lot of information sources, but despite this, none of them pleased me, because i could not find a complete car encyclopedia book.
 So i thought: "hey, the only way i can have that book is if i do it myself...", so in 1991 i have started working for it, dedicating around 6 hours per day, almost every day, sometimes even more. Soon i found out that some rules had to be set, in order to make it correctly and started taking it seriously. When most of the data was collected, forum various sources (directly from car manufacturers, an attic literally fool of books, magazines, brochures, etc, internet, museums, etc) i worked even more, reaching around 12 hours / day, in the last 5 years, when i sorted out all the information and photos gathered, getting it ready.
 Not long ago, i have tried to upload it on an website, but i was not pleased with the uploading process and soon, decided instead to go for the old fashioned printed version.

The database
 My database, contains today, more than 10.000 car brands and 50.000 car models. If for the number of car brands, i can be pretty accurate, as they are more than 10.000, the number of models is just an estimation, as i have stopped numbering them long time ago. I have said more than 50.000 car models as this is an estimation related to the total number of brands in the database and the number of car models/brand from the first volume. On another mathematical calculation made before, (taking in consideration the size of the database, and some other factors) i had 120.000 car models, so only the time will tell as i do not intend to start numbering them. This would be a very big waste of my time.

The book series:

 As everything is ready, i have just started the book series, called "The most complete car encyclopedia".
There are some important guidelines that need to be mentioned.
-All the brands and models were included in the book, only if i had at least an official or semi-official information of it
- The encyclopedia is organized, presenting all the car brands in alphabetical order, not the companies that build the cars
- The car models of a manufacturer are structured in 4 categories: series production models (including kit-cars); concepts and prototypes, race cars (official or semi-official ones; including single-seater racers as Formula One, Formula 3000 or Indy Car) and coachbuilt.
 -All the models from each category are arranged in chronological order and each generation of a model is treated separately
 -Each car model has a complete photo gallery with interior, exterior and special models. There is also a description text with history facts, which can vary from 3 to 50 rows, depending on the information available or car's importance.  There are also the car's specification mentioned, sometimes in the text (for the ones with one or two engines, transmissions, etc) or sometimes in a separate location, just near the text.
 - Every car model is listed under the brand it was sold. It does not matter the company that manufactured it.
 -Car replicas are included, only if they are (were) build (built), under different brand and model name from the original car.
 -The cars made by small manufacturers, which are based on series production models from other car brands, are listed only if there are brand and model name differences and only if the car was changed in a way that it can be considered a different model.
 - The only situation when a two brand names are listed together, is when they are virtually the same brand, with the same lineup or model chronology and the brand names were used only for different markets, as in the case of VAZ and LADA
 -and so on. There are many other rules, which can be found on the introduction of each volume and will also be published on the website.

About the volumes of the series:
 This book series will be published in volumes. Making a calculation with the number of files used in the first volume and the number of files in the rest of the database, there will probably be around 50 volumes, more or less. I cannot be 100 % accurate, as i do not know precisely how the information will fit on paper.
 All the volumes will keep, their design, layout, size and format, making it a desirable book collection.
 Although the database is complete and almost ready to print, the volumes will be released with a pace of a new volume, each every two or three months, both because technical and financial issues. I still  have to verify some of the photos for the copyright, make some addnotations; my collaborator has to transform the photos and texts from my database, into "ready to print" format. After all that is solved, there still have to pass, around 20 days from placing the order to the printing company i work with, to the day i receive the finished product. I would probably be able to release all the volumes, if i would have half a million dollars, which is not the case for me. This release plan, makes it also more easier for the financial effort of the buyer.

The price of a volume will be 120 USD, including worldwide free expedited shipping.
For collectors, there will be a 25% collector's discount, which will work from the second volume, like this:
-Each volume has inserted a "25 % discount voucher", which can be used only when purchasing the next volume. So the first volume has inserted a discount voucher for the second one.
-The discount voucher, has a unique 10 digit code, which must be kept secret, because it can be used only once.

So, the price for the next volumes, will drop for a collector, to 30 USD/volume. If we look to the release rate of a volume, each 2 or 3 months, there will be a collector cost of 30 - 40 USD/month, which is not much.

PS: in the next post, i will start talking about the first volume of the book series, which has already been released and add some photos of the printed volume.
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Re: The most complete car encyclopedia book series, my lifetime project.
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2013, 01:39:29 PM »
The first volume of the book, has just been released.
It covers all the brands starting with numbers and also all the car brands from  AA to AL, as well as their models, structured for each brand in the four categories mentioned before:
-series production
-concepts and prototpyes
-race cars
-coachbuilt

Volume specifications:
Language: English
Format: letter Size (A4)
Cover: hardcover
Interior: full color
Car brands: 362
Car models: 1353

The first volume is already available for120 USD, including FREE worldwide expedited shipping and includes the "25% Collector's discount voucher", which can be used when purchasing the next volume, reducing the price to 90 USD, including FREE worldwide expedited shipping.

You can see many photos in the attachment of this post and the following one.

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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2013, 01:42:12 PM »
More photos:
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2013, 01:57:48 PM »
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Re: The most complete car encyclopedia book series, my lifetime project.
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2013, 03:21:26 PM »
holy cow! that,s a wonderful project that your doing. Im very impressed with this project,I have a couple of questions,will you be putting in obscure cars as well,or does that fall under prototypes and concept cars? also will the series include home-built cars to?I would like to know if you can get a copy of volume1 at your local bookstores? you are right,your project will be the greatest books ever done on automobiles, thank you!

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Re: The most complete car encyclopedia book series, my lifetime project.
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2013, 03:34:31 PM »
holy cow! that,s a wonderful project that your doing. Im very impressed with this project,I have a couple of questions,will you be putting in obscure cars as well,or does that fall under prototypes and concept cars? also will the series include home-built cars to?I would like to know if you can get a copy of volume1 at your local bookstores? you are right,your project will be the greatest books ever done on automobiles, thank you!

Thanks !
Yes, the book series includes any obscure or home built car i could find and it has photo, only if i obtained copyright permission for it, as many of the cars from that category do not have press photos.
Regarding the categories they fit in, it depends if it was built as a demonstrator, s an attempt for a series production or it was built to be sold.

The first volume is already available and can be purchased directly for me. I have already sold a good number of copies. If you want one, just send me an e-mail at allcarbrands@yahoo.com

My online store, is still under construction and it will probably be ready in a week or so.
Regarding other sellers, i am already talking with a few and still looking for resellers as there will be a discount for bulk purchases but i am not looking hard for them as i intend to sell this book, mostly directly from my online store, with FREE worldwide expedited shipping.
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Re: The most complete car encyclopedia book series, my lifetime project.
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2013, 12:28:22 PM »
I'd like to know if book #2 will be published in a couple of months nevertheless or if you have to wait for #1 to reach a precise amount of copies.
I'm sure once you'll have a steady number of copies sold, you will be able to keep selling that number because I don't think anybody will stop a collection and find himself with an interrupted encyclopedia but I don't think you are going to proceed and invest your money in such a huge opera if it's not self-sustained.

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Re: The most complete car encyclopedia book series, my lifetime project.
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2013, 12:45:21 PM »
I'd like to know if book #2 will be published in a couple of months nevertheless or if you have to wait for #1 to reach a precise amount of copies.
I'm sure once you'll have a steady number of copies sold, you will be able to keep selling that number because I don't think anybody will stop a collection and find himself with an interrupted encyclopedia but I don't think you are going to proceed and invest your money in such a huge opera if it's not self-sustained.

Good question.
I will start getting ready the first volume, as soon as i solve all the problems and get the things straight, like the online store and other small but numerous organizing problems. This is the only time this things are done.
After that, i will take a 3 day break and then start getting the second volume ready to print, so the second volume will have a bigger time gap, than the time you have to wait, for the 3rd, 4th and so on.

The most important thing, is that the time i dedicate now for organizing, which includes all the aspects, including my life, my other income sources, etc, will have a major result, as follows:
With the specified 2 or 3 months per volume, the release of every new volume will not be conditioned at all, by the selling numbers of the released volumes. So there will be absolutely no connection between selling and release dates of the new  volumes.


PS:
I know this is hard to believe, but with very carefully planned income vs expenses, it is possible, with this 2/3 months gap per volume. The sale success of the volumes, will only help me in pushing the time gap of the volumes, to even more close one. The one specified from the beginning is the one i can support, as a personal long term investment, without calculating the sale success.
This was very carefully planned, so the financial situation to be close to the release plan, dictated by the technical issues, like getting it ready to print.
 

P PS:
I suppose you are interested in a brand from the second volume. Are you an Audi, Aston Martin or AMC fan?
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Re: The most complete car encyclopedia book series, my lifetime project.
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2013, 01:06:16 PM »
I know I will want every future volume,along with anyone else buying these volumes,I,ve seen your posted pictures etc,it truly is a beautiful project as well as idea,it,ll be no doubt the most complete car encyclopedia ever published hands down as you,ve stated in the beginning. thank you for your time.

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Re: The most complete car encyclopedia book series, my lifetime project.
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2013, 02:12:03 PM »
I know I will want every future volume,along with anyone else buying these volumes,I,ve seen your posted pictures etc,it truly is a beautiful project as well as idea,it,ll be no doubt the most complete car encyclopedia ever published hands down as you,ve stated in the beginning. thank you for your time.

Thank you again for your appreciation. The only thing i can do to really thank you, is working even harder.

So, here it is the progress. Below is a photo from the online store.
Don't mind the picture with that car, it is used just for testing.

PS: The website is offline for now, it will be back online, within 5 days or so.
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Re: The most complete car encyclopedia book series, my lifetime project.
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2013, 03:00:58 PM »
I'd like to know if book #2 will be published in a couple of months nevertheless or if you have to wait for #1 to reach a precise amount of copies.
I'm sure once you'll have a steady number of copies sold, you will be able to keep selling that number because I don't think anybody will stop a collection and find himself with an interrupted encyclopedia but I don't think you are going to proceed and invest your money in such a huge opera if it's not self-sustained.

Good question.
I will start getting ready the first volume, as soon as i solve all the problems and get the things straight, like the online store and other small but numerous organizing problems. This is the only time this things are done.
After that, i will take a 3 day break and then start getting the second volume ready to print, so the second volume will have a bigger time gap, than the time you have to wait, for the 3rd, 4th and so on.

The most important thing, is that the time i dedicate now for organizing, which includes all the aspects, including my life, my other income sources, etc, will have a major result, as follows:
With the specified 2 or 3 months per volume, the release of every new volume will not be conditioned at all, by the selling numbers of the released volumes. So there will be absolutely no connection between selling and release dates of the new  volumes.


PS:
I know this is hard to believe, but with very carefully planned income vs expenses, it is possible, with this 2/3 months gap per volume. The sale success of the volumes, will only help me in pushing the time gap of the volumes, to even more close one. The one specified from the beginning is the one i can support, as a personal long term investment, without calculating the sale success.
This was very carefully planned, so the financial situation to be close to the release plan, dictated by the technical issues, like getting it ready to print.
 

P PS:
I suppose you are interested in a brand from the second volume. Are you an Audi, Aston Martin or AMC fan?

I'm not interested in the 2nd book, I'm interested in the whole opera.
If you had all the 50\70 books ready and you were start selling them one by one, I'll be your 1st customer.
What blocks me is the way the work is proceeding. We already discussed that and I'd like to read other opininons too.
I think I can afford a monthly of 30USD, and sure I will for your books...but I really can't start spending money with the fear that,  let's say in 5 years, while I'm reading about Lancia on my book #30, for any reason you stop publishing them.
Your commitment to your lifetime project is remarkable, but obviously not enough if you consider what is beyond your willing.
I also told you that I'd feel more confortable if you at least could give a sort of insurance about: a digital version of your opera to sell in case the print version will not be available. I read about your concern about digital copies (they can be copied and your work must be protected) and I also prefer printed books...but in the previous example, If I knew that I can always have a pdf of the missing 20\40 books to complete the opera myself, I'd feel less frustrated.
And of course, I'd like to know if they are going to be 50 or 70 books, since the difference means about 3\5 years!
All those issues can be fixed if you had the chance to prepare all the books, dividing the material and present a plan of the opera, like it works for every encyclopedia I bought so far.

As I said many times my interest is to have your encyclopedia and I know I'll have it sooner or later...
I'd rather buy it monthly now than in 2025 (or later) at an astronomical price (and quite outdated).


I'd like to be clear about: I really like your book and I'd love to buy them all. They are the most complete encyclopedia I ever found so far and they can't miss in my collection.

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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2013, 03:27:41 PM »
I'd like to know if book #2 will be published in a couple of months nevertheless or if you have to wait for #1 to reach a precise amount of copies.
I'm sure once you'll have a steady number of copies sold, you will be able to keep selling that number because I don't think anybody will stop a collection and find himself with an interrupted encyclopedia but I don't think you are going to proceed and invest your money in such a huge opera if it's not self-sustained.

Good question.
I will start getting ready the first volume, as soon as i solve all the problems and get the things straight, like the online store and other small but numerous organizing problems. This is the only time this things are done.
After that, i will take a 3 day break and then start getting the second volume ready to print, so the second volume will have a bigger time gap, than the time you have to wait, for the 3rd, 4th and so on.

The most important thing, is that the time i dedicate now for organizing, which includes all the aspects, including my life, my other income sources, etc, will have a major result, as follows:
With the specified 2 or 3 months per volume, the release of every new volume will not be conditioned at all, by the selling numbers of the released volumes. So there will be absolutely no connection between selling and release dates of the new  volumes.


PS:
I know this is hard to believe, but with very carefully planned income vs expenses, it is possible, with this 2/3 months gap per volume. The sale success of the volumes, will only help me in pushing the time gap of the volumes, to even more close one. The one specified from the beginning is the one i can support, as a personal long term investment, without calculating the sale success.
This was very carefully planned, so the financial situation to be close to the release plan, dictated by the technical issues, like getting it ready to print.
 

P PS:
I suppose you are interested in a brand from the second volume. Are you an Audi, Aston Martin or AMC fan?

I'm not interested in the 2nd book, I'm interested in the whole opera.
If you had all the 50\70 books ready and you were start selling them one by one, I'll be your 1st customer.
What blocks me is the way the work is proceeding. We already discussed that and I'd like to read other opininons too.
I think I can afford a monthly of 30USD, and sure I will for your books...but I really can't start spending money with the fear that,  let's say in 5 years, while I'm reading about Lancia on my book #30, for any reason you stop publishing them.
Your commitment to your lifetime project is remarkable, but obviously not enough if you consider what is beyond your willing.
I also told you that I'd feel more confortable if you at least could give a sort of insurance about: a digital version of your opera to sell in case the print version will not be available. I read about your concern about digital copies (they can be copied and your work must be protected) and I also prefer printed books...but in the previous example, If I knew that I can always have a pdf of the missing 20\40 books to complete the opera myself, I'd feel less frustrated.
And of course, I'd like to know if they are going to be 50 or 70 books, since the difference means about 3\5 years!
All those issues can be fixed if you had the chance to prepare all the books, dividing the material and present a plan of the opera, like it works for every encyclopedia I bought so far.

As I said many times my interest is to have your encyclopedia and I know I'll have it sooner or later...
I'd rather buy it monthly now than in 2025 (or later) at an astronomical price (and quite outdated).


I'd like to be clear about: I really like your book and I'd love to buy them all. They are the most complete encyclopedia I ever found so far and they can't miss in my collection.

Thank you again for your appreciation.
I'm sorry if that offended you, know i understand what you meant by that. I just supposed you are an Audi fan or something and can't wait to see the second volume.

 Regarding an exact release plan, i am working on that, but can't be to precise right now. This will be announced sometime at the beginning of the next year. I have my actual release pace and i need to see if i can speed it up a little. I also need to release the second and third volume, to have the exact number of volumes of the whole series. To be able to set the exact number, i need to obtain some information. There are a lot of different factors, besides the number of files in the database or in a letter so i can not be precise after a single volume, need two more so i can make better calculations, regarding the number of volumes. After the third volume, an exact plan will be presented, with release dates and what letters from alphabet will be covered by each volume.

 Regarding the insurance, i cannot give a PDF file, as i intend to keep the curiosity about the book. There are quite a lot number of cars, found in very old books, that i did not see anywhere on the internet, so i need to keep the buyers curious. Any information from the volumes not released, will be kept secret until release date.

 Regarding the fortunate events and the fact that this car encyclopedia needs to be finished as it is very important for the car history, i know i have a big responsibility on my shoulders, now that i have announced to have it finished. So there are few members of my family, that know everything needed to know, in the case something bad happens to me  ;) . I did not set this up as a special request from people i got in touch with, discussing on forums. This was established few time ago, as i think for long term, especially since i am a father.

PS:
Setting all the volumes in the ready to print stage (transferring the photos and information into a print friendly format) , with a faster rate then specified before, is a bigger investment as the collaborators that do that, need to be payed. This can be helped by the sales also.
But, as i have said before, after releasing the third volume, i can present that release plan, specifying also what letters from alphabet will be covered by each volumes. I need to have three volumes, so i can have a precise estimation of pages/a specific number of files. You cannot have a precise average number from one or two volumes.
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Re: The most complete car encyclopedia book series, my lifetime project.
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2013, 04:19:04 PM »
I was not offended at all...it's not that bad to be an Audi or Aston Martin fan  ;D
I read now that there are some changes and things are developing quickly since we started to exchange emails last week.
About the pdf, I was not thinking at your books in that format, of course...I like the idea of discover these makers in each book and a list released before will spoil the fun...I was thinking at something to sell (at a reduced price) only in case you will not be able to end the encyclopedia as planned and only to premit the collector to finish the opera himself: a file to complete the opera that is useless if you do not have the starting piece of it...but you already answer that now.
I support you in this task, I really want to see it done and of course I'll be glad to help your further volumes dedicated to updates and missed makers.

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Re: The most complete car encyclopedia book series, my lifetime project.
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2013, 04:26:08 PM »
Now i understand. Something like an e-book which is printer friendly.
Well, if from some unfortunate event i will stop. Let's say i will earn 10 million USD at the lottery and i will not be addicted to this anymore, although i think i will still be, but you never know, until you face literally the situation...
So if some event happens, i will keep that in mind as an option.  :)
But again, i am 99.99 % sure, that it will not be the case.

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Re: The most complete car encyclopedia book series, my lifetime project.
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2013, 03:01:54 AM »
when the volumes do start coming out every 2-3 months ,will there be enough of each volume, incase somebody couldn,t purchase a given volume right off,as they come out,?because not everyone,s financial situation is the same? I hope you don,t mind the question.what it boils down to is everyones very excited about this project-books. Thank You for your time.

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Re: The most complete car encyclopedia book series, my lifetime project.
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2013, 03:22:16 AM »
when the volumes do start coming out every 2-3 months ,will there be enough of each volume, incase somebody couldn,t purchase a given volume right off,as they come out,?because not everyone,s financial situation is the same? I hope you don,t mind the question.what it boils down to is everyones very excited about this project-books. Thank You for your time.

Yes, i think there are enough volumes printed and if there is demand, i will print some more.

I do not mind any question. That's why i'm here, to get in contact with car enthusiasts and receive feedback about my work.

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Re: The most complete car encyclopedia book series, my lifetime project.
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2013, 03:57:11 AM »
I was also curious will you also include cars that only had a sketch or drawing,but was never built,for an example the 1962 rascal concept car by Tom Karen?

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« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2013, 04:12:02 AM »
I was also curious will you also include cars that only had a sketch or drawing,but was never built,for an example the 1962 rascal concept car by Tom Karen?

No.
The cars that were only a sketch or mock-up models will not be included. All the other car categories left aside, will be in another books i'm working on.  ;) The hardest part of this book, is the copyright of the photos, as these were not the objects of press releases.
All the information i have got on that type of models, have been redirected in another database, because "The most complete car encyclopedia" is the book of all the cars that have been built.
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« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2013, 04:20:57 AM »
getting back to the question about financial situations,anyone can purchase any given volume ,when they can afford?

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« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2013, 04:25:23 AM »
getting back to the question about financial situations,anyone can purchase any given volume ,when they can afford?

Of course.
All the volumes will be available on the website. I can hardly wait for the day, when i will see all the volumes listed in my store... :D

The only thing to be kept in mind is the rule of the 25% discount voucher code.
The code received in the first volume can be used only for the second volume, the code in the second volume can be used only for the third volume, the code in the third volume can be used only for the fourth volume and so on.


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« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2013, 06:52:39 AM »
I must agree that this is a very astonishing project! I think I might jump in and try to collect the whole issue, although that will surely demand some periodical spending. Congratulations on this great achievement!

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« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2013, 10:08:13 AM »
I must agree that this is a very astonishing project! I think I might jump in and try to collect the whole issue, although that will surely demand some periodical spending. Congratulations on this great achievement!

Thank you for the appreciation.
I agree that it demands some spending. That's why i introduced the 25% collector's discount to make it more desirable. So a collector will need around 30 to 40 USD/month, to collect the whole book series.

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« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2013, 11:10:34 AM »
Your project is really great, I've never seen something similar, and congratulation for your hard work!  :)
...but...  :-\
I have a few doubts about this project...
First: you said you classified the cars using their brand... but how do you do for cars like the so-called etceterini? I'm thinking about a lot of anonimous home-built "Fiat" with a lot of different bodies, (but also chassis, engine and other parts), and similar car without a name...
Second: It's only my humble opinion, but I don't think it's a good idea to merge all the cars you have in a single book... why? Because I think it would be a big confusion of names, without any sense... why don't you cut this big work in sections? If I am interested in unknown italian car makers from the 20s should I pay thousands of euros for the whole encyclopedia? I would have much preferred an encyclopedia for italian makers, an encyclopedia for german coachbuilder, an encyclopedia for american tuners etc... maybe it doesn't sound as "The most complete car encyclopedia" but in this way I think you left out a lot of possible customers which cannot afford it...
Third: One book every 2-3 months means that I buy the last one after a few years... and in a few years how many new brands/makers/models would be born?? It would be an anachronistic book...
Fourth: I like complete book... and this is not a complete book for sure... it is indeed the "most complete"... but (and I don't blame you for that, it's not a possible project) this is surely far from "the (unlikely) complete car encyclopedia"...
Personally I don't like the so called "complete" books, cause they are always incomplete, and I think this is a project that should stay on a database, not on a book... but obviously you cannot earn money from an internet project... and you cannot do such a project without money...   :-\

So... I wouldn't buy it... I cannot afford it and if a could I think I would spend my money in more "specific" books (or in an old car...)... but I think that if you are creating your big dream, this is great!! And you do it as you want to do it...
Congratulations!!

PS - Sorry for my bad english...
PS2 - Do you include also pre-1886 "cars" with steam or electric engine??

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« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2013, 03:38:27 PM »
Your project is really great, I've never seen something similar, and congratulation for your hard work!  :)
...but...  :-\
I have a few doubts about this project...
First: you said you classified the cars using their brand... but how do you do for cars like the so-called etceterini? I'm thinking about a lot of anonimous home-built "Fiat" with a lot of different bodies, (but also chassis, engine and other parts), and similar car without a name...
Second: It's only my humble opinion, but I don't think it's a good idea to merge all the cars you have in a single book... why? Because I think it would be a big confusion of names, without any sense... why don't you cut this big work in sections? If I am interested in unknown italian car makers from the 20s should I pay thousands of euros for the whole encyclopedia? I would have much preferred an encyclopedia for italian makers, an encyclopedia for german coachbuilder, an encyclopedia for american tuners etc... maybe it doesn't sound as "The most complete car encyclopedia" but in this way I think you left out a lot of possible customers which cannot afford it...
Third: One book every 2-3 months means that I buy the last one after a few years... and in a few years how many new brands/makers/models would be born?? It would be an anachronistic book...
Fourth: I like complete book... and this is not a complete book for sure... it is indeed the "most complete"... but (and I don't blame you for that, it's not a possible project) this is surely far from "the (unlikely) complete car encyclopedia"...
Personally I don't like the so called "complete" books, cause they are always incomplete, and I think this is a project that should stay on a database, not on a book... but obviously you cannot earn money from an internet project... and you cannot do such a project without money...   :-\

So... I wouldn't buy it... I cannot afford it and if a could I think I would spend my money in more "specific" books (or in an old car...)... but I think that if you are creating your big dream, this is great!! And you do it as you want to do it...
Congratulations!!

PS - Sorry for my bad english...
PS2 - Do you include also pre-1886 "cars" with steam or electric engine??

First of all, thank you for your good wishes and appreciation.
Don't worry about your English, i'm surprised mostly by your post, which i found very well balanced. You express very good personal point of views but in the same time, you are able to see my personal aspects too.
I will take your questions one by one:
1.Here it depends. Some of them can be found in the coachbuilt section of the car manufacturer, some of them under a separate name. There are a lot of rules i used, because although many people do not realize, but things are complicated either sorting way you choose.
In general, around the category you specified there are: coachbuilt models (which are listed to the coachbuilt section of a car manufacturer), cars built with parts from a specific car company (which are listed separately under their own name -if there is one, if not the person who built it- only if they can be identified as a different model from the donor car and some series production cars, slightly modified at home, which generally can not be found in this book (not to be understood that coachbuilt models  are not included) as for this type of cars is very hard to use the photos (copyright) and there are probably millions of them, but there are also important exceptions in the book. At this last ones am referring especially to the home-tuned cars, with some little body mods.

2.It is absolutely impossible to merge all the cars in a single book. It would probably be the world's biggest book ever published and you would need a ladder to climb, so you can open the front cover. There will probably be 20.000 pages, from my estimation. I wonder how that would look like ????
Regarding the fact that you are interested in a section of the book only, and some other type of sorting and ordering the information, i can only tell you that it is very subjective, but also very understandable (please don't take this personally or offensive). I had more than 10 other different demands like the following:
-many people wished for this type of sorting as they wanted to see all the cars of a brand one by one and watch the evolution through time of a single model, or by what model it was replaced
-some wanted all the models to be sorted in chronological order
-some wanted separate books for each car categories
-etc

In conclusion there is no way to satisfy the wishes of everyone (or should i better say needs, since it is a product), because many times they contradict each other in sorting rules. So it's practically impossible.
Regarding the sorting by countries...i had it sorted that way, in the very early stage, lot of time ago, but moved to alphabetical because some factors:
-there are brands that moved their headquarters through time. I'll give you an example here, nut first of all i have to mention that this is a brand and model encyclopedia, not one of the car companies.
Example: AC brand, started in UK, moved it's production to Malta, now they are thinking to UK again. In the same time, cars under same AC brand are built not only by AC Cars Limited but also by AC Cars Gullwing, from Germany (a different company but cars are built under same brand).
The best example for an multinational Ac car is this: AC 378 GT Zagato and i'll quote myself "The car is designed by Zagato, built in South Africa by Hi-Tech Automotive, for the Gullwing Gmbh company, which had licensed the AC brand name, from AC Cars Limited.  :o (this is head hurting)
Also, what do you do with Ford, there are different or same models built all over the world. I'll give you an example. The Sierra was built in Europe, but there was built in South Africa a V8 powered version, in order to register a race car in the local championship, as there was a number of series production copies imposed. So ordering by country would have been hard and cause many problems.

So i have chosen the one that satisfy the most as you can not satisfy all, which is also the logical way for an encyclopedia. Because after lecturing it, the most common thing to use it for is to find information about a specific model. So you search the brand in the index, go to page, category and then find the model, very fast.

3. I know it's volumes are spread in time and some new cars and brands will appear, but that is inevitable. Generally when people comment on that, they do not realize one important thing: this has not been done before, it will have more than 20.000 pages (the most complete made before had, as far as i know, had around 1000 pages or so), nobody can do that in a year. There are financial issues and i will probably need 50 guys to lay the info on paper and lots and lots of other problems.
For the new models, after the book, there will be book of updates, released yearly.

Regarding cutting out some cars from it, that will never happen...
Nice to see you observed that i said "The most complete". I can not pretend it is complete, if a single car is missing, which probably is.

Regarding the success, i can only tell you this. There are a lot of customers already, which want to buy the whole series, even if they have the money or not and there are also quite a few, that would buy them all on spot, if they were released. One of them calculated that if he stops smoking, he would be able to buy it with no extra expense. I even used that idea and expressed it on forums before.  ;)
Some guys requested that the book to be delivered elsewhere not at home, mentioning that the wife do not need to know about it's cost or about the book.
So it all depends on various factors.

Thank you for the questions. I will answer any question, until starting volume two....

PS: Yes, they are also in the book.



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