Carrozzeria Scioneri

als15 · February 28, 2013, 03:59:40 AM

As anticipated somewhere on the forum, we are preparing now a book about Carrozzeria Scioneri history.
We have been very lucky, because with the help of a renowned Italian journalist (that's also writing the large part of the texts) we have been able to access directly to Renato Scioneri's (who passed away in 2005) personal archive.
So, the pictures will be wonderful.
Unfortunately, however, there are a couple of small holes and if any of you has some picture or information to fill them, it is of course very welcome:

- eraly years, from 1944 to 1950. They should have worked mainly on military vehicles (1944-45 for the Wermacht; 1945-1950 to rework war-scraps).
- late '70s. They worked on Fiat 127 mk2 and Ritmo, but we din't find any picture.

Any contribution will be, of course, credited in the book.

Many thanks!

Paul Jaray · February 28, 2013, 04:09:30 AM

Wonderful!
Another book to buy on the spot.

Iluvatar · February 28, 2013, 04:29:53 AM

Great work!!

75america · March 01, 2013, 02:46:15 AM

Fiat Ritmo Jolly by Scioneri:

als15 · March 01, 2013, 04:26:23 AM

Can you, please, send me a high-res scan via e-mail?

Paul Jaray · June 04, 2013, 04:19:31 PM

Fiat Panda Valentina 750S

Paul Jaray · August 14, 2013, 12:16:36 PM

I guess you read the latest issue of Ruoteclassiche

...
6 pages about Scioneri with pictured 23 of his cars...the latest are Ritmo, Panda, Uno and 127.

als15 · August 14, 2013, 12:35:56 PM

Not yet... But of course it's the Murphy's law.

I can assume that at least 24 out of the 23 pictures are wonderful and missing in my book that, so far, is already printed and waiting for binding.
You can look for months for some information and when you give up and decide to print the book, a lot of new stuff arrives the day after. Always.

Paul Jaray · August 14, 2013, 12:55:49 PM

I'm sure you have them...but the good new is that we are going to buy another book of your collection!

als15 · August 14, 2013, 02:27:35 PM

I hope so (

) and not to have forgotten too many cars...
The book will be ready in early September.

Paul Jaray · August 14, 2013, 04:38:37 PM

1 for me, please!

75america · August 15, 2013, 03:10:47 AM

+1

Paul Jaray · September 08, 2013, 04:41:27 PM

Quote from: als15 on August 14, 2013, 02:27:35 PM
I hope so () and not to have forgotten too many cars...
The book will be ready in early September.

And here we are....early September!

I hope Colli will be one of your next ones!

als15 · September 28, 2013, 03:28:27 PM

Finally we have it!

http://www.ilcammello.it/Libri/aesthetica/Scioneri/scioneri_e.html

Paul Jaray · September 29, 2013, 07:26:52 AM

Is there a chanche to have a signed copy?

als15 · September 29, 2013, 09:22:32 AM

Sure! But, please, remind me to sign it when you buy the book.

Paul Jaray · October 04, 2013, 04:47:12 PM

Just placed my order...now it's time to take a seat near the door and wait...
BTW have you decided the next subject? And more important, are you going to cover all the ones already covered by some 'disappointing' and too expensive small booklets (blue cover, just BW small and fuzzy pictures...)?

als15 · October 04, 2013, 04:58:50 PM

Just packed and ready for shipment! You will get it next week.

Next subjects are definitely already decided and the job is going ahead. I got the opportunity to have access to two quite big archives of former coachbuilders and I think they indeed deserve a book, also beacuse the quantity of photos and other documents is quite impressive.

One I think you can guess... because I've wrote a topic here speaking about my discovery of the "time machine". It is... no: too easy! You have to guess!

I know you know... And it is much more than just a coachbuilder!
The second is Carrozzeria Riva (also mentioned sometimes here on Autopuzzles), who is a minor coachbuilder, but also one of the ancienst in Italy (older than Italy, actually, dating back to the Austro-Ungarian Empire provinces in the 40s of the XIX Century) and who made amazing cars, like the "Monza" and "Serenissima" berlinetta.

So, you see that I'm not following a real logic but I'm try to catch opportunities and go where there are interesting brands with enough documentation to support a whole book.
Others will hopefully follow and I've already some very promizing contacts...

Paul Jaray · October 04, 2013, 05:17:31 PM

I think I have an idea (and one of your latest books can support it)...and Riva, well I just can't wait...again!
I have to thank a book seller that some years ago, while I was going to buy a series of booklets about the "Carrozzieri Italiani" and I was complaining for the fact that they were just a bunch of xeroxed pages and priced like fine books, told me to wait because a new, complete and better encyclopedia was on the way on the subject. It was not true, but now I can spend those hundreds of euros for a good collection!
(but you have to cover them all!

)

als15 · October 04, 2013, 05:29:24 PM

I think your thinking is right. But to be honest I've also to say that the two things are not related as source. The drawings published in the first book come from the stylist personal archive; later I got access to the cocachbuilder's archive, which is also full of photos. After some months of scanning, the counter stopped at 1815 photos! Definitely enough for a good book, I think.

Allemano · October 05, 2013, 04:30:17 AM

'Carrozzeria Riva' would be definetly on top of my wishlist.

Iluvatar · October 05, 2013, 07:59:55 AM

Carrozzeria Riva!!!

Carnut · October 05, 2013, 10:01:39 AM

Exactly the subjects that are just crying out to be documented!
Can't wait...

Paul Jaray · October 18, 2013, 02:23:14 PM

Book arrived today!
Thank you again, another good reading...and just for information the pics in that article can be found in your book too.

75america · January 11, 2014, 11:57:11 AM

In case a second edition of the book will be made in the future:

News:

Carrozzeria Scioneri