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Re: Alfa Romeo 1900,2000,2600 fuoriserei wanted!
« Reply #50 on: June 07, 2013, 05:24:54 PM »
Interesting also to see that there are two alternative of wheelbase and two for the roof heigth.
Similaro design was also done by Michelotti for Accossato hearses on Fiat 1400/1900.

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Re: Alfa Romeo 1900,2000,2600 fuoriserei wanted!
« Reply #51 on: June 08, 2013, 05:44:47 AM »
Interesting also to see that there are two alternative of wheelbase and two for the roof heigth.
Similaro design was also done by Michelotti for Accossato hearses on Fiat 1400/1900.
Yes, it looks like the final drawing has a wheelbase of 2630mm (like the standard 1900) but there is a 2880mm proposal in the same drawing... maybe 2880 is the wheelbase of the longer chassis of the Colli limousine?
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Re: Alfa Romeo 1900,2000,2600 fuoriserei wanted!
« Reply #52 on: July 10, 2013, 12:21:34 PM »
Alfa Romeo 1900 powered Cooper T23:

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Re: Alfa Romeo 1900,2000,2600 fuoriserei wanted!
« Reply #53 on: July 10, 2013, 02:03:46 PM »
Alfa Romeo 1900 powered Cooper T23:
Yes... it was a puzzle here on AP: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=9049
A great car for this topic!!
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Re: Alfa Romeo 1900,2000,2600 fuoriserei wanted!
« Reply #54 on: August 24, 2013, 06:54:02 AM »
This will need some more investigation, but I bumped onto the following:

"...Jack Flaherty had a [Huffaker Genie] Mk5 with a potent 2-liter Alfa tuned by Italian ace Virgilio Conrero..."

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Re: Alfa Romeo 1900,2000,2600 fuoriserei wanted!
« Reply #55 on: August 26, 2013, 04:51:27 AM »
This will need some more investigation, but I bumped onto the following:

"...Jack Flaherty had a [Huffaker Genie] Mk5 with a potent 2-liter Alfa tuned by Italian ace Virgilio Conrero..."
I found this...
Quote from: conceptcarz.com
The second version of the Genie was the MK5 which was large enough to except a bigger Coventry-Climax FWA, Corvair, or Alfa Romeo engine.
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Re: Alfa Romeo 1900,2000,2600 fuoriserei wanted!
« Reply #56 on: August 26, 2013, 04:53:45 AM »
...and, from a facebook page:
Quote from: Burns Stainless LL
This is a great example of a custom exhaust build for a vintage racer. This Huffaker Genie is powered by a 1600 cc Alfa Romeo engine. The original Huffaker Genie MK4 was powered by an 100c BMC motor. Later versions were designed for 1600cc Alfa and Coventry Climax engines. The Genie MK10 with Chevrolet V-8 power provided competition for the legendary Chaparral's of Jim Hall.
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Re: Alfa Romeo 1900,2000,2600 fuoriserei wanted!
« Reply #57 on: September 23, 2013, 10:58:11 AM »
I hope there is still time for updates.
I'm reading about Renato Mandarini:
"Fin dal 1939 rimase affascinato dall'idea di mettere a punto un sistema di distribuzione avalve rotante, che sperimentò inizialmente nel 1947 su un vecchi motore Alfa Romeo 1900 a sei cilindri ridotto di cilindrata a 1100cc ma che non fu mai installato su alcun autotelaio da corsa."

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Re: Alfa Romeo 1900,2000,2600 fuoriserei wanted!
« Reply #58 on: September 23, 2013, 11:06:11 AM »
I hope there is still time for updates.
I'm reading about Renato Mandarini:
"Fin dal 1939 rimase affascinato dall'idea di mettere a punto un sistema di distribuzione avalve rotante, che sperimentò inizialmente nel 1947 su un vecchi motore Alfa Romeo 1900 a sei cilindri ridotto di cilindrata a 1100cc ma che non fu mai installato su alcun autotelaio da corsa."

The Alfa Romeo 1900 (and it's engine) only came out in 1950 and was a 4-cylinder.  So the mentioned engine most have been derived from another model.

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Re: Alfa Romeo 1900,2000,2600 fuoriserei wanted!
« Reply #59 on: September 23, 2013, 02:00:24 PM »
It seems that today I made more mistakes than posts!  ;D
(BTW there's a pic of that engine, probably you recognize it.)

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« Reply #60 on: September 23, 2013, 02:21:00 PM »
... ;) ...
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Re: Alfa Romeo 1900,2000,2600 fuoriserei wanted!
« Reply #61 on: September 24, 2013, 11:24:01 AM »
It seems that today I made more mistakes than posts!  ;D
(BTW there's a pic of that engine, probably you recognize it.)

I assume the engine came from a 1933 6C 1900 (I don't know how that engine looks like but it must look almost identical to a 6C 1500/1750 because it was part of this engine family))

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Re: Alfa Romeo 1900,2000,2600 fuoriserei wanted!
« Reply #62 on: September 24, 2013, 02:11:06 PM »
I assume the engine came from a 1933 6C 1900 (I don't know how that engine looks like but it must look almost identical to a 6C 1500/1750 because it was part of this engine family))
Indeed this could be the right story...
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Re: Alfa Romeo 1900,2000,2600 fuoriserei wanted!
« Reply #63 on: October 05, 2013, 07:30:26 AM »
According to this book:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=12487.0
this car:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=17670.0
"...was rebuilt in 1965 into a sleek Special powered by an Alfa Romeo 1900 TI Super engine."

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Re: Alfa Romeo 1900,2000,2600 fuoriserei wanted!
« Reply #64 on: October 05, 2013, 08:15:03 AM »
According to this book:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=12487.0
this car:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=17670.0
"...was rebuilt in 1965 into a sleek Special powered by an Alfa Romeo 1900 TI Super engine."
Thanks! These are the cars I need!!!  ;)
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Re: Alfa Romeo 1900,2000,2600 fuoriserei wanted!
« Reply #65 on: October 05, 2013, 08:37:20 AM »
Attention: This picture http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=17670.0 is from the time before the rebuilt.
Based on the text from the book, the car probably looked completely different once it was equipped with the Alfa engine.

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Re: Alfa Romeo 1900,2000,2600 fuoriserei wanted!
« Reply #66 on: October 05, 2013, 09:04:58 AM »
Attention: This picture http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=17670.0 is from the time before the rebuilt.
Based on the text from the book, the car probably looked completely different once it was equipped with the Alfa engine.
Yes... the problem is to find a picture of the latter version... which from what I read should be still in existence...  ???
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Re: Alfa Romeo 1900,2000,2600 fuoriserei wanted!
« Reply #67 on: November 26, 2013, 08:06:28 PM »
I was recently talking to a man who was restoring a 1953 Alfa Romeo 1900 coupe. He did tell me who the coach builder was, except I've forgotten. He said it was an Italian body, and that it had small enamel badges on each side with a horse and carriage. What would it have been?

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Re: Alfa Romeo 1900,2000,2600 fuoriserei wanted!
« Reply #68 on: November 27, 2013, 03:13:47 AM »
I was recently talking to a man who was restoring a 1953 Alfa Romeo 1900 coupe. He did tell me who the coach builder was, except I've forgotten. He said it was an Italian body, and that it had small enamel badges on each side with a horse and carriage. What would it have been?
The carriage can be the badge of Castagna... but without the horse...
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Re: Alfa Romeo 1900,2000,2600 fuoriserei wanted!
« Reply #69 on: November 28, 2013, 03:36:33 PM »
OK, that helps for now. I'll ask the owner next time I see him.

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Re: Alfa Romeo 1900,2000,2600 fuoriserei wanted!
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« Reply #71 on: December 01, 2013, 02:28:01 PM »
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« Reply #72 on: December 01, 2013, 02:29:02 PM »
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Re: Alfa Romeo 1900,2000,2600 fuoriserei wanted!
« Reply #73 on: December 01, 2013, 02:43:07 PM »
- There is in my opinion not a single Pininfarina Alfa that looks like the Primavera. The Berlinetta of Farouk:
There were an Alfa 2500 made by Pinin Farina for Farouk... this one is a similar car on the 1900 base, but I've not found any proof it was for Farouk too...
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Re: Alfa Romeo 1900,2000,2600 fuoriserei wanted!
« Reply #74 on: March 25, 2014, 06:29:08 AM »
Hi, I refresh this thread to see if there is something new... if you have more infos and cars please let me know!!!  :)

I've found that on AP the Conrero Alfa Romeo Supersonic/Spider has three different puzzles...  ::)
NEH 594
ropat#49
NEH 1390
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