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Re: The Global Modern Automobile Encyclopedia
« Reply #225 on: April 09, 2018, 09:35:40 AM »
So a Bulgarrenault 10 is fine for Bulgaria, because it has a different brand than a Renault 10, just as a ZAZ Chance, although it is just a licence-built Chevrolet Lanos?   ???

Anyway, here's another South African car: the Mascot Mini Buggy (https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2015-44/solved-djetset-698-mascot-mini-buggy-(south-africa)/)

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Re: The Global Modern Automobile Encyclopedia
« Reply #226 on: April 09, 2018, 09:47:49 AM »
So a Bulgarrenault 10 is fine for Bulgaria, because it has a different brand than a Renault 10, just as a ZAZ Chance, although it is just a licence-built Chevrolet Lanos?   ???

Anyway, here's another South African car: the Mascot Mini Buggy (https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2015-44/solved-djetset-698-mascot-mini-buggy-(south-africa)/)
Those two fit in the rules because Bulgarrenault and ZAZ both are their own companies from their own countries. Maybe possibly if the BMW 2004 was built in South Africa by another company, It would’ve worked. But because it was a BMW from the factory still with the BMW name, It didn’t fit in with the rules.

But it’s all fine now that you’ve found another one. Just remember this for next time!
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Re: The Global Modern Automobile Encyclopedia
« Reply #227 on: April 09, 2018, 02:21:01 PM »
General Motors made their BTV in Surinam, but I don't know real local cars...
that wouldn’t work since it was built in several other countries. GM is also an American company.

The GM BTV Project was developed in several countries, basically GM promoted a local plants to built a predesigned Basic Transportation Vehicle with local names.
Cherito, El Salvador
Chato, Guatemala
Compadre, Honduras
Pinolero, Nicaragua
Amigo, Costa Rica
Tapir, Guyana
Andino, Ecuador
Mitai, Paraguay
Indio, Uruguay
Harimau, Malaysia
Harabas, Philippines

So, all they are basically, the same car, but after the project was gone, local owners has developed a new breed
(Maybe, I miss some other country)

Indio made by horacio torrendell not gm design

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Re: The Global Modern Automobile Encyclopedia
« Reply #228 on: April 09, 2018, 03:08:02 PM »
General Motors made their BTV in Surinam, but I don't know real local cars...
that wouldn’t work since it was built in several other countries. GM is also an American company.

The GM BTV Project was developed in several countries, basically GM promoted a local plants to built a predesigned Basic Transportation Vehicle with local names.
Cherito, El Salvador
Chato, Guatemala
Compadre, Honduras
Pinolero, Nicaragua
Amigo, Costa Rica
Tapir, Guyana
Andino, Ecuador
Mitai, Paraguay
Indio, Uruguay
Harimau, Malaysia
Harabas, Philippines

So, all they are basically, the same car, but after the project was gone, local owners has developed a new breed
(Maybe, I miss some other country)

Indio made by horacio torrendell not gm design

All of them were built by local manufacturers, including Indio (apparently none of them were built by GM). Based on a basic design and adapted to their local market

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Re: The Global Modern Automobile Encyclopedia
« Reply #229 on: April 09, 2018, 04:10:03 PM »
Just remember this for next time!
I still have trouble understanding the rule. Is it: No matter where the car was built, it belongs to the country where the name-giving company is located? Then the BMW 2004 is German. If not, it must be South African.
Applying the above rule the Daewoo Matiz changed from being South Korean to US American when it was relabelled Chevrolet Matiz witout any other changes than the badges in 2005. And the Seat 133 was Spanish, but when it was built in Argentina as a Fiat 133 it was Italian? The Austrian-built Mercedes-Benz G turned from German into Austrian when the Puch badge was applied for the models for the Swiss and Austrian markets? The Hyundai Galloper was South Korean, except in Germany and Spain where it was Japanese, because it was sold as a Mitsubishi Galloper? I'm lost!

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Re: The Global Modern Automobile Encyclopedia
« Reply #230 on: April 09, 2018, 05:03:58 PM »
General Motors made their BTV in Surinam, but I don't know real local cars...
that wouldn’t work since it was built in several other countries. GM is also an American company.

The GM BTV Project was developed in several countries, basically GM promoted a local plants to built a predesigned Basic Transportation Vehicle with local names.
Cherito, El Salvador
Chato, Guatemala
Compadre, Honduras
Pinolero, Nicaragua
Amigo, Costa Rica
Tapir, Guyana
Andino, Ecuador
Mitai, Paraguay
Indio, Uruguay
Harimau, Malaysia
Harabas, Philippines

So, all they are basically, the same car, but after the project was gone, local owners has developed a new breed
(Maybe, I miss some other country)

Indio made by horacio torrendell not gm design

All of them were built by local manufacturers, including Indio (apparently none of them were built by GM). Based on a basic design and adapted to their local market

It is a Uruguayan design and construction, backed by Uruguayan general motors, a local subsidiary imported the bedford engine ca, cf, and alfinal with opel or chevette ,it had nothing to do with the btv, gm project for underdeveloped countries



the body was much better developed, besides being stamped its side, hood etc

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Re: The Global Modern Automobile Encyclopedia
« Reply #231 on: April 10, 2018, 12:18:14 AM »
Just remember this for next time!
I still have trouble understanding the rule. Is it: No matter where the car was built, it belongs to the country where the name-giving company is located? Then the BMW 2004 is German. If not, it must be South African.
Applying the above rule the Daewoo Matiz changed from being South Korean to US American when it was relabelled Chevrolet Matiz witout any other changes than the badges in 2005. And the Seat 133 was Spanish, but when it was built in Argentina as a Fiat 133 it was Italian? The Austrian-built Mercedes-Benz G turned from German into Austrian when the Puch badge was applied for the models for the Swiss and Austrian markets? The Hyundai Galloper was South Korean, except in Germany and Spain where it was Japanese, because it was sold as a Mitsubishi Galloper? I'm lost!
I know it’s confusing, but you are correct. It belongs to the country where the name-giving company is located. This is rarely a problem now, especially this late in the game. Because only 1 or 2 cars and brands could possibly be ever located from smaller countries. But South Africa was just one of the examples of a larger country with many more cars to be found. I wanted to focus on roots of companies even though they were sold in a certain country where they may not have originally started because I truly wanted to see how many locally grown brands there could be around the entire world. But besides that, here’s the best example of the rule i’d originally made.

Zagato Perana Z-One. A car based in South Africa, holds the Zagato name strongly, even though it is Italian. And even if the work of designing and building all happened in Italy, It would still count as South African. Because thats where it grew from. This may not happen again because all the bigger countries are used up already. Not only do you have to think about the car, you have to think about the brand and badge as well.
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Re: The Global Modern Automobile Encyclopedia
« Reply #232 on: April 14, 2018, 04:01:44 PM »
Costa Rica: Panda Mobility’s Wheelchair Accessible Trike

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Re: The Global Modern Automobile Encyclopedia
« Reply #234 on: April 16, 2018, 12:40:35 AM »
Mongolia: Made in Mongolia Chaser engine by V Dashnyam 2013

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Re: The Global Modern Automobile Encyclopedia
« Reply #235 on: April 16, 2018, 05:18:47 AM »

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Re: The Global Modern Automobile Encyclopedia
« Reply #236 on: April 16, 2018, 08:57:45 AM »
Democratic Republic Of The Congo - Manace Kipesi’s home made ‘Mobile Garage’ with a built in generator on the back.
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Re: The Global Modern Automobile Encyclopedia
« Reply #238 on: April 16, 2018, 02:29:11 PM »
Grenada: Jason Vera’s Evo Drag Car. Dragged in the Geneva Motor Clubs International Drag Race.
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Re: The Global Modern Automobile Encyclopedia
« Reply #239 on: April 16, 2018, 02:36:45 PM »
That's just a mildly modified Evo?

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Re: The Global Modern Automobile Encyclopedia
« Reply #240 on: April 16, 2018, 02:51:20 PM »
Yeah. But modified cars are allowed. I’ve done things like this before with countries like Honduras. I did it to loosen up the rules so we dont have to deeply hunt for things.
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Re: The Global Modern Automobile Encyclopedia
« Reply #241 on: April 16, 2018, 03:33:27 PM »
I'd say, take a look at the puzzles of Oguerrob or me to see that there is loads of potential. We're not in some hurry, are we?

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Re: The Global Modern Automobile Encyclopedia
« Reply #242 on: April 16, 2018, 03:36:02 PM »
For example, the American Virgin Islands have a car make - I think it was featured here

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Re: The Global Modern Automobile Encyclopedia
« Reply #243 on: April 16, 2018, 04:15:39 PM »
I think almost all countries have a (at least one) car, we should just look for them.
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Re: The Global Modern Automobile Encyclopedia
« Reply #244 on: April 16, 2018, 04:29:46 PM »
I think almost all countries have a car, we should just look for them.
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Re: The Global Modern Automobile Encyclopedia
« Reply #245 on: April 17, 2018, 07:18:31 AM »
Uzbekistan: Uzbekistan Rashidov by Nasir Rashidovich 1980

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Re: The Global Modern Automobile Encyclopedia
« Reply #246 on: April 18, 2018, 01:03:48 AM »
Some major producers still overlooked!
South Korea: the lovely Kia Stinger

South Korea is already posted and is not in the list

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Re: The Global Modern Automobile Encyclopedia
« Reply #247 on: April 18, 2018, 10:55:16 AM »
Cameroon: Electric Car from the Instituit Universitie de la Cota with a face melting 1 hp motor!
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Re: The Global Modern Automobile Encyclopedia
« Reply #248 on: April 18, 2018, 11:01:47 AM »
Kuwait: Air Car By Fahad Al-Eid and Ahmed Al-Ali
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« Reply #249 on: April 18, 2018, 11:12:39 AM »
Tanzania: TATC Nyumbu
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