Author Topic: 1954 Turin Motor Show (ex MPC#045) (Read 43688 times)

thorax · « **Reply #450 on:** November 06, 2014, 06:23:48 AM »

Quote from: João on November 05, 2014, 03:33:36 PM

According to my source, there were two 1100 DeLuxe by Ghia. One with sunroof, color : grigio piombo e celeste. This is the first one beside the Tutta Luce.

which one is the "Tutta Luce" in the photo?

Iluvatar · « **Reply #451 on:** November 06, 2014, 03:25:50 PM »

Quote from: João on November 05, 2014, 03:33:36 PM

According to my source, there were two 1100 DeLuxe by Ghia. One with sunroof, color : grigio piombo e celeste. This is the first one beside the Tutta Luce.

Next car : There is another 1900SS by Touring (black car) beside the light colored one, Touring stand.

Could you send me your source via PM?
The secondo, black, 1900 SS Touring is right!

targhediferro · « **Reply #452 on:** November 07, 2014, 08:51:12 AM »

Is this a Mercedes-Benz 180?

Iluvatar · « **Reply #453 on:** November 08, 2014, 09:42:22 AM »

Quote from: targhediferro on November 07, 2014, 08:51:12 AM

Is this a Mercedes-Benz 180?

It should be correct...

Iluvatar · « **Reply #454 on:** November 08, 2014, 09:45:39 AM »

Quote from: João on November 05, 2014, 03:33:36 PM

According to my source, there were two 1100 DeLuxe by Ghia. One with sunroof, color : grigio piombo e celeste. This is the first one beside the Tutta Luce.

I have checked the info I have and you are right, it's another DeLuxe, not a Quotidiana.

Iluvatar · « **Reply #455 on:** November 08, 2014, 09:52:17 AM »

What about this puzzle? I'ts time to think about it...

Dear friends... you are working so hard to solve this puzzle... but does it still worth to be a real puzzle?
I mean, now we have only targhediferro and João still in the race... and they should be awarded with more then 25 points!! Maybe it's time to stop the points?
I'm not saying the puzzle should die, but the competition between puzzlers is over, because one have to wait the other before posting another guess... the research is interesting, but maybe should be done in another way, with an open thread and no points...

Please let me know what you think about it!

If you agree I will award all the points and move this puzzle (where should I move it? Solved? Or better to Features, Stories and Photos?).

Wendax · « **Reply #456 on:** November 08, 2014, 10:56:05 AM »

I agree. I guess targhediferro and Joao have valuable sources unavailable to the others.

Like most of the other puzzlers I just have the information available online, which is mostly exhausted. 25 points is a nice score, and it is about the maximum amount of points awarded in group puzzles to a single puzzler so far, I think. I don't think a single puzzle should be worth much more points, no matter how large it is.
The idea to carry on this puzzle without points is interesting. It would be challenging to reconstruct the whole exposition just by picture sources. But, as mentioned before, I am mainly out of the race. Great puzzle, though.

targhediferro · « **Reply #457 on:** November 08, 2014, 11:37:12 AM »

I agree as well...I think 25 points are even too many. I have got an interesting source (perhaps not so detailed as Joao one), it's a sport magazine from 1954 with some pictures of the Turin Show (unluckily the same ones you can find on the net) but it also includes a plan of the Salon in which are specified the names of the Marques of each stands, and this is undoubtly usefull. I've no list of the cars present at the show.
Anyway, I would be glad to continue this addictive quiz and to discover all the cars from Turin '54 show, even if it will be a pointless quiz.

João · « **Reply #458 on:** November 08, 2014, 12:28:55 PM »

Second that my friends, there´s no problem about it. I´m not here for the points. My source is a 1954 Auto Italiana magazine, that covers the show. There are a couple more sources but not as good as this one. Waiting was the hardest part. It´s your call Iluvatar.

Let´s do it! It´s addictive and I would like to see a nice detailed exposition!

Iluvatar · « **Reply #459 on:** November 09, 2014, 10:55:08 AM »

All right!
Now the puzzle is an open topic about the 1954 Turin Motor Show and the cars showed in that exhibition. Feel free to add any contribution you like to create a comprehensive review of that show.
I'll post soon something I have found. And maybe I'll do soon a review of all we have until now, to start again...
Now I add all the points.
Congratulation for all your contribution, past and future!

PS-I have both Motor Italia and Auto Italiana as my sources...

SACO · « **Reply #460 on:** November 10, 2014, 02:27:12 AM »

I would like to know where was hidden the Panther ?

Iluvatar · « **Reply #461 on:** November 10, 2014, 10:34:12 AM »

Quote from: SACO on November 10, 2014, 02:27:12 AM

I would like to know where was hidden the Panther ?

Probably it was in the Colli stand, near Accossato, IAME and Touring, but I'm not sure...

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #462 on:** November 10, 2014, 11:12:09 AM »

I have a couple of pics showing the position of the Panther and few others, I'll upload them soon...I have to scan them again from my books because they got lost....

Wendax · « **Reply #463 on:** November 10, 2014, 12:24:25 PM »

A not very informative Panther picture:

João · « **Reply #464 on:** November 10, 2014, 12:53:53 PM »

Near Vignale´s stand, behind the first row, Panther stand, I believe. Beside him you can see the Giardinetta Elaborata by Vignale. There were 9! Giardinettas by Viotti btw.

SACO · « **Reply #465 on:** November 10, 2014, 04:59:42 PM »

Iluvatar · « **Reply #466 on:** November 11, 2014, 05:44:47 PM »

Ghia, Ghia-Serie Speciali, Monviso

MONVISO
1 - Fiat 1100 "Stella Filante" (white)
3 - Fiat 1100 cabriolet 2 posti (jade green)
5 - Fiat 1100 coupé 4 posti (light/dark blue)
22 - Fiat 1100 berlinetta 2/4 posti (red)

GHIA SERIE-SPECIALI
77 - Fiat 1400D "Commerciale" (blue/gray)
79 - Fiat 1100 "Commerciale"
108 - Fiat 1100 "De Luxe" with Heppich sunroof
109 - Fiat 1100 "De Luxe" (blue with lead-gray roof)
19 - Fiat 1100 "Quotidiana"
29 - Fiat 1100 "Tutta Luce" (red with black roof)

GHIA
8 - Chrysler GS (mountain blue)
14 - Fiat 1100 TV coupé 2 posti (met. gray)
2 - Fiat 1900 cabriolet (green)
4 - Fiat 8V "Supersonic" (green)
6 - Abarth-Alfa Romeo 2000 (white/blue)
7 - DeSoto Adventurer II

thorax · « **Reply #467 on:** November 12, 2014, 11:11:23 AM »

thanks!

Iluvatar · « **Reply #468 on:** November 12, 2014, 05:15:43 PM »

Pinin Farina, Coriasco, Fissore, Monterosa, Bertone (+Bristol)

PININ FARINA
201 - Ferrari 375 MM (light blue?)
88 - Alfa Romeo 1900 TI berlina 4 posti (met. bottle green)
12 - Bentley Continental (met. gray)
20 - Lancia Aurelia PF200 cabriolet (black)
202 - Fiat 1100 TV (pea green, with wire wheels)
203 - Fiat 1100 TV (black)
204 - Nash-Healey
?? - Ferrari 250 Europa
?? - Lancia Aurelia PF200 coupé (met. gray)

CORIASCO
205 - Fiat 1100 "Tourist Transport" (bronze)
206 - Fiat 1400D "Tourist Trasport" (dark blue-gray)

FISSORE
30 - Fiat 1100 TV berlinetta (met. red)
31 - Fiat 1100 giardinetta
28 - Fiat 1100 TV berlinetta (met. gray)

MONTEROSA
207 - Fiat 1400D giardinetta
208 - Fiat 1100 giardinetta
209 - Fiat 1100 giardinetta (?)
?? - Fiat 1100 TV berlinetta
maybe other 1400D and 1100 giardinetta?

BERTONE
32 - Alfa Romeo 1900 SS BAT7 (mountain blue)
33 - Fiat 1100 "Cheetah" spider (cream white)
34 - Arnolt-Bristol spider (met. electric blue)
35 - Dodge Storm Z 250 (met. blue-gray with dark gray roof)
36 - Fiat 1100 TV berlinetta (met. bronze)
36b - Siata 208 coupé (!)
37 - Fiat 1100 "Derby" cabriolet

targhediferro · « **Reply #469 on:** November 13, 2014, 03:14:56 PM »

I would be very glad if someone could tell me who's the coachbuilder of the 1100/103 familiare that is possible to see near the Panther. I see a label on the front fender but it's impossible to read, and the profile ends before the doors...Anybody knows somethings?