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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #400 on: September 29, 2014, 03:22:46 AM »
And a Fiat 1400A at the left of the 1100 Familiare ?

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #401 on: September 29, 2014, 04:58:45 AM »
The rear of the Fiat 1900 (#9 ) :
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #402 on: September 29, 2014, 05:00:45 AM »
And a Fiat 1400A at the left of the 1100 Familiare ?
It seems right... so...
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #403 on: September 29, 2014, 06:40:05 AM »
Is this a Lancia Aurelia B52 Allemano?
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #404 on: September 29, 2014, 11:11:14 AM »
Nice Saco!

Zagato Stand : Another Fiat 1100 Coupé by Zagato

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #405 on: September 29, 2014, 05:47:12 PM »
Nice Saco!

Zagato Stand : Another Fiat 1100 Coupé by Zagato
It's an 8V and we already have it with #59!  :)
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #406 on: September 29, 2014, 05:49:17 PM »
Is this a Lancia Aurelia B52 Allemano?
That picture is from Turin Motor Show 1953!
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #407 on: September 29, 2014, 06:11:02 PM »
No! it“s another car, it has white wall tires and it looks smaller than the 8V imho.

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #408 on: September 30, 2014, 12:55:12 AM »
Is this a Lancia Aurelia B52 Allemano?
That picture is from Turin Motor Show 1953!
Excuse me, but this picture is the attached to #221 one, posted by Exhekt, that you've said to be a correct identication of n.68, Fiat 1100 cabriolet Allemano. ???
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #409 on: September 30, 2014, 09:04:55 AM »
Is this a Lancia Aurelia B52 Allemano?
That picture is from Turin Motor Show 1953!
Excuse me, but this picture is the attached to #221 one, posted by Exhekt, that you've said to be a correct identication of n.68, Fiat 1100 cabriolet Allemano. ???
Yes, the picture is in post #221, but it's there only to identify the correct car type seen in the previous picture of the same post (and in post #220), it's from 1953.
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #410 on: September 30, 2014, 09:11:12 AM »
No! it“s another car, it has white wall tires and it looks smaller than the 8V imho.

This is correct, I didn't notice that...

Now we have a problem I already noticed during the research for this puzzle.
At that time the cars in the show were not the same everytime.
During the motor show some cars changed... and they are not the same in all the pictures...

But according to the picture you posted there were a 1100 Zagato near the other 1100... so I add the double car in the same "slot" (car#59) and you recieve one more point!
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #411 on: September 30, 2014, 10:04:04 AM »
I suppose there is another Fiat 1100 / 103 familiare apart from the one pictured in answer #66. 

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #412 on: September 30, 2014, 12:37:37 PM »
During the motor show some cars changed , like on Pininfarina stand !
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #413 on: October 02, 2014, 09:21:20 AM »
I suppose there is another Fiat 1100 / 103 familiare apart from the one pictured in answer #66.
Another point for you!
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #414 on: October 02, 2014, 09:22:14 AM »
During the motor show some cars changed , like on Pininfarina stand !
This is indeed a problem for the puzzle...
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #415 on: October 02, 2014, 09:28:05 AM »
Simca Stand : 1954 Simca Aronde Chatelaine Break

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #416 on: October 03, 2014, 08:37:16 AM »
I think I found something but it's pretty hard to prove it...howhever:
In the left part of the pic you should recognize the MB 220 cabriolet taken from rear...the same was later moved near to a 300SL Coupe.
I read SACO already guessed that but I've strong clues that my pics comes from '54...
 

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #417 on: October 03, 2014, 09:11:52 AM »
If you are talking about the white convertible, that should be the 300 S you identified in reply #366.

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #418 on: October 03, 2014, 11:11:22 AM »
Simca Stand : 1954 Simca Aronde Chatelaine Break
It looks right indeed!
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #419 on: October 03, 2014, 11:52:59 AM »
I think I found something but it's pretty hard to prove it...howhever:
In the left part of the pic you should recognize the MB 220 cabriolet taken from rear...the same was later moved near to a 300SL Coupe.
I read SACO already guessed that but I've strong clues that my pics comes from '54...
Just to add a better reference...
This is a picture from 1953 Turin Motor Show, you can identify the year by looking at the two american cars, the Mercury and the Lincoln Capri, both are model year 1953.
In the picture there is a 300 SL, but this is not the right motor show.
This is in you left picture.
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #420 on: October 03, 2014, 12:01:18 PM »
I think I found something but it's pretty hard to prove it...howhever:
In the left part of the pic you should recognize the MB 220 cabriolet taken from rear...the same was later moved near to a 300SL Coupe.
I read SACO already guessed that but I've strong clues that my pics comes from '54...
Just to add a better reference...
This is a picture from 1953 Turin Motor Show, you can identify the year by looking at the two american cars, the Mercury and the Lincoln Capri, both are model year 1953.
In the picture there is a 300 SL, but this is not the right motor show.
This is in you left picture.
If you look at your picture on the right, the cars around are the same... and the 300 SL has a number... maybe "21" from 1952 Le Mans 24??
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #421 on: October 03, 2014, 12:02:24 PM »
I think I found something but it's pretty hard to prove it...howhever:
In the left part of the pic you should recognize the MB 220 cabriolet taken from rear...the same was later moved near to a 300SL Coupe.
I read SACO already guessed that but I've strong clues that my pics comes from '54...
So I think it's clear the picture is not from 1954...
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #422 on: October 03, 2014, 12:11:14 PM »
Hmmm...I have the same pic as yours plus 2 more...and the stands were more or less in the same position the ones you can see in the background of the other pics here...I thought I recognized the white panel for the Giulietta too...but obviously you know better... :P

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #423 on: October 03, 2014, 12:12:23 PM »
If you are talking about the white convertible, that should be the 300 S you identified in reply #366.
Yes...that was my idea and my next guess would be the 300sl coupe...but I got it wrong it seems.  :-\

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #424 on: October 03, 2014, 12:31:33 PM »
Perhaps a Fiat Giardinetta Coriasco behind the Bertone stand ?