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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #125 on: February 14, 2014, 03:25:29 PM »
I think that the little spider we can see at the left of the Alfa Romeo 1900 Bat 7, is the Spider Bertone (built both on Fiat 1100/103 Tv base and on Stanguellini 1100 base).
Can you give me the specific name of this version? "Xxxxxxx"
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Please finish this before posting other guesses...
The only name I found is Special, so Bertone Spider Special (on Fiat 1100/103 Tv or Stanguellini 1100, but I suppose the Turin car was a Fiat). I can add that the code number of these Bertone car was 57xx, 2 spider and 9 coupes were built from 1953 to 1956.

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #126 on: February 14, 2014, 04:13:15 PM »
I’m sure others will join soon... this puzzle is fun! I’d jump back to Ghia’s stand – the nice red/black pillarless coupé in the background is another Fiat Nuova 1100.
Yes... but locked (only this car, not the puzzle) for you to come out with the name of this specific version...  ;)
I guess it might be something unique like Charmant, Minnie, Orchidea, or Rendez-Vous – coachbuilt Fiats were sometimes given model names apparently with female customers in mind, and this little hardtop certainly looks chic – but have no idea what that name could be... Or was it called simply 1100-103 TV Gran Luce? If not, please unlock the question; other than it is a Nuova Millecento with Ghia body, I actually know nothing about this car.
The name is similar to "Gran Luce"... with a different word... "Xxxxx Luce"
So the missing part of the name is a five-letter Italian adjective, like, say, "Bella" – is that correct?

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #127 on: February 14, 2014, 04:36:28 PM »
A Fiat giardinetta 1100 Fissore in front of the Alfa Bat7 ?

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #128 on: February 14, 2014, 05:20:15 PM »
A Fiat giardinetta 1100 Fissore in front of the Alfa Bat7 ?
Yes... but this one should be the same identified by targhediferro (car #31)
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #129 on: February 14, 2014, 05:25:14 PM »
So the missing part of the name is a five-letter Italian adjective, like, say, "Bella" – is that correct?
Not exactly an adjective... but the structure of the word is almost the same... (consonat-vocal-double consonat-vocal...)  ;)
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #130 on: February 14, 2014, 05:33:19 PM »
I think that the little spider we can see at the left of the Alfa Romeo 1900 Bat 7, is the Spider Bertone (built both on Fiat 1100/103 Tv base and on Stanguellini 1100 base).
Can you give me the specific name of this version? "Xxxxxxx"
(locked for you)
Please finish this before posting other guesses...
The only name I found is Special, so Bertone Spider Special (on Fiat 1100/103 Tv or Stanguellini 1100, but I suppose the Turin car was a Fiat). I can add that the code number of these Bertone car was 57xx, 2 spider and 9 coupes were built from 1953 to 1956.
It had a specific name... it's in english... (if this can help you...)

but don't worry... I already consider this car asfound by you... but you have to give me the full name before going on
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #131 on: February 14, 2014, 06:01:26 PM »
A new map for you!!  ::)

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #132 on: February 15, 2014, 08:47:40 AM »
I think that the little spider we can see at the left of the Alfa Romeo 1900 Bat 7, is the Spider Bertone (built both on Fiat 1100/103 Tv base and on Stanguellini 1100 base).
Can you give me the specific name of this version? "Xxxxxxx"
(locked for you)
Please finish this before posting other guesses...
The only name I found is Special, so Bertone Spider Special (on Fiat 1100/103 Tv or Stanguellini 1100, but I suppose the Turin car was a Fiat). I can add that the code number of these Bertone car was 57xx, 2 spider and 9 coupes were built from 1953 to 1956.
It had a specific name... it's in english... (if this can help you...)

but don't worry... I already consider this car asfound by you... but you have to give me the full name before going on
Please, unlock and if someone knows this name, give him the point.
I prefer to go otherwhere: behind the Monviso Stella Filante, I think we find a Touring Alfa Romeo 1900 Super Sprint.

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #133 on: February 15, 2014, 09:30:56 AM »
Next to Bat 7 ,perhaps area Maserati with an A6G Allemano ?

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #134 on: February 15, 2014, 02:18:34 PM »
So the missing part of the name is a five-letter Italian adjective, like, say, "Bella" – is that correct?
Not exactly an adjective... but the structure of the word is almost the same... (consonat-vocal-double consonat-vocal...)  ;)
Thanks for the clues, you are really generous... Could the name be Tutta Luce, then?

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #135 on: February 15, 2014, 05:38:10 PM »
I think that the little spider we can see at the left of the Alfa Romeo 1900 Bat 7, is the Spider Bertone (built both on Fiat 1100/103 Tv base and on Stanguellini 1100 base).
Can you give me the specific name of this version? "Xxxxxxx"
(locked for you)
Please finish this before posting other guesses...
The only name I found is Special, so Bertone Spider Special (on Fiat 1100/103 Tv or Stanguellini 1100, but I suppose the Turin car was a Fiat). I can add that the code number of these Bertone car was 57xx, 2 spider and 9 coupes were built from 1953 to 1956.
It had a specific name... it's in english... (if this can help you...)

but don't worry... I already consider this car asfound by you... but you have to give me the full name before going on
Please, unlock and if someone knows this name, give him the point.
I prefer to go otherwhere: behind the Monviso Stella Filante, I think we find a Touring Alfa Romeo 1900 Super Sprint.
I'm sorry to say it, but I ask you the name before going on...  ;) ... but I'll help you... it's a name of an animal... in english... used also in the 70s for a prototype from a well known sports-cars italian make...
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #136 on: February 15, 2014, 05:38:55 PM »
So the missing part of the name is a five-letter Italian adjective, like, say, "Bella" – is that correct?
Not exactly an adjective... but the structure of the word is almost the same... (consonat-vocal-double consonat-vocal...)  ;)
Thanks for the clues, you are really generous... Could the name be Tutta Luce, then?
Yes!!  :D
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #137 on: February 15, 2014, 05:41:28 PM »
Next to Bat 7 ,perhaps area Maserati with an A6G Allemano ?
No, this one is the Fissore 1100 coupé, as found by João in reply#100
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #138 on: February 15, 2014, 06:27:44 PM »
I suppose you mean the Fiat 1100/103 TV spider Cheetah Bertone; ...if yes is my previous answer correct?

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #139 on: February 16, 2014, 04:40:20 AM »
I suppose you mean the Fiat 1100/103 TV spider Cheetah Bertone; ...if yes is my previous answer correct?
Yes Cheetah is correct! And yes the car behind Monviso Stella Filante is a Touring 1900 Super Sprint.
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #140 on: February 16, 2014, 05:09:22 AM »
A DKW F 89 L Bus, viewed from behind the Bertone Zeder.

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #141 on: February 16, 2014, 05:34:34 AM »
A DKW F 89 L Bus, viewed from behind the Bertone Zeder.
Great!  :)
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #142 on: February 16, 2014, 05:39:06 AM »
I suppose this car is a Fiat 1100-103 FL coupè Francis Lombardi

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #143 on: February 16, 2014, 05:44:37 AM »
I suppose this car is a Fiat 1100-103 FL coupè Francis Lombardi
The location is correct, the car fit with the picture... so it should be right!
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #144 on: February 16, 2014, 09:05:06 AM »
Very nice map!  8)

Another car seen for the first time : 1954 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint by Bertone. (Alfa Romeo Stand)

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #145 on: February 16, 2014, 09:17:15 AM »
Aaaaaggghhh...I was quite sure it was the Giulietta, but I was afraid to loose a point!
Another try in Francis Lombardi stand...this one should be the 1400 A Presidenziale FL.

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #146 on: February 16, 2014, 09:26:19 AM »
Another : A brand new Panhard Dyna Z, in 1954, the body was redesigned.

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #147 on: February 16, 2014, 09:48:23 AM »
Please...  ;)
It is... but please next time wait for my reply before posting another guess...  ;)
Next time I won't be polite...
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #148 on: February 16, 2014, 09:50:08 AM »
Very nice map!  8)

Another car seen for the first time : 1954 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint by Bertone. (Alfa Romeo Stand)
Yes! The star of the motor show!  :D
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #149 on: February 16, 2014, 09:53:14 AM »
Aaaaaggghhh...I was quite sure it was the Giulietta, but I was afraid to loose a point!
Another try in Francis Lombardi stand...this one should be the 1400 A Presidenziale FL.
Yes
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