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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #100 on: February 13, 2014, 10:13:39 AM »
And another 1100 Coupé by the same coachbuilder :

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #101 on: February 13, 2014, 10:26:21 AM »
And the station wagon...Fiat 1100/103 Familiare Fissore

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #102 on: February 13, 2014, 04:18:01 PM »
I love this game but I have not the time to play it...
I'd like to know, If I tell you what car is the red one from João's (and Targhediferro's) pic I get 1 point?

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #103 on: February 14, 2014, 03:30:47 AM »
And the station wagon...Fiat 1100/103 Familiare Fissore
And another 1100 Coupé by the same coachbuilder :
Both correct!
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #104 on: February 14, 2014, 03:31:46 AM »
I love this game but I have not the time to play it...
I'd like to know, If I tell you what car is the red one from João's (and Targhediferro's) pic I get 1 point?
I'm sorry... it was already identified by targhediferro...  :-\
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #105 on: February 14, 2014, 04:00:14 AM »
I'll wait...I have some pics of a different area.  :)

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #106 on: February 14, 2014, 06:54:13 AM »
I’m sure others will join soon... this puzzle is fun! I’d jump back to Ghia’s stand – the nice red/black pillarless coupé in the background is another Fiat Nuova 1100.
Yes... but locked (only this car, not the puzzle) for you to come out with the name of this specific version...  ;)
I guess it might be something unique like Charmant, Minnie, Orchidea, or Rendez-Vous – coachbuilt Fiats were sometimes given model names apparently with female customers in mind, and this little hardtop certainly looks chic – but have no idea what that name could be... Or was it called simply 1100-103 TV Gran Luce? If not, please unlock the question; other than it is a Nuova Millecento with Ghia body, I actually know nothing about this car.

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #107 on: February 14, 2014, 07:12:28 AM »
I’m sure others will join soon... this puzzle is fun! I’d jump back to Ghia’s stand – the nice red/black pillarless coupé in the background is another Fiat Nuova 1100.
Yes... but locked (only this car, not the puzzle) for you to come out with the name of this specific version...  ;)
I guess it might be something unique like Charmant, Minnie, Orchidea, or Rendez-Vous – coachbuilt Fiats were sometimes given model names apparently with female customers in mind, and this little hardtop certainly looks chic – but have no idea what that name could be... Or was it called simply 1100-103 TV Gran Luce? If not, please unlock the question; other than it is a Nuova Millecento with Ghia body, I actually know nothing about this car.
I know it's locked...I will not give any answer, also because I don't know the right one.  I spent a lot of time researching that car, before Ehhxekt gave his answer, and I found nothing.  I suppose it will be a hard nut.  May I ask if it is a Ghia, or perhaps something build by Ghia but designed by someone else?

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #108 on: February 14, 2014, 07:46:44 AM »
Next famous car! Bertone Stand : 1954 Alfa Romeo BAT 7.

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #109 on: February 14, 2014, 08:24:47 AM »
I think that the little spider we can see at the left of the Alfa Romeo 1900 Bat 7, is the Spider Bertone (built both on Fiat 1100/103 Tv base and on Stanguellini 1100 base).

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #110 on: February 14, 2014, 08:32:00 AM »
Darn, too late again!

So just two more pics from me:

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #111 on: February 14, 2014, 08:38:58 AM »
Behind it, an Arnolt-Bristol Bolide by Bertone :

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #112 on: February 14, 2014, 09:00:36 AM »
And on the left the Dodge Zeder Bertone.

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #113 on: February 14, 2014, 09:16:58 AM »
The little coupé behind the Dodge Zeder is the Fiat Stanguellini Berlinetta by Bertone I believe

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #114 on: February 14, 2014, 09:41:15 AM »
And the convertible right behind the Arnolt Bristol could that be a MG-Arnolt Convertible ?

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #115 on: February 14, 2014, 09:52:07 AM »
And the convertible right behind the Arnolt Bristol could that be a MG-Arnolt Convertible ?
I think it isn't allowed to give two answers...you have to wait that another puzzler gives his guess before trying again. ;)

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #116 on: February 14, 2014, 11:11:07 AM »
I’m sure others will join soon... this puzzle is fun! I’d jump back to Ghia’s stand – the nice red/black pillarless coupé in the background is another Fiat Nuova 1100.
Yes... but locked (only this car, not the puzzle) for you to come out with the name of this specific version...  ;)
I guess it might be something unique like Charmant, Minnie, Orchidea, or Rendez-Vous – coachbuilt Fiats were sometimes given model names apparently with female customers in mind, and this little hardtop certainly looks chic – but have no idea what that name could be... Or was it called simply 1100-103 TV Gran Luce? If not, please unlock the question; other than it is a Nuova Millecento with Ghia body, I actually know nothing about this car.
The name is similar to "Gran Luce"... with a different word... "Xxxxx Luce"
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #117 on: February 14, 2014, 11:12:58 AM »
I know it's locked...I will not give any answer, also because I don't know the right one.  I spent a lot of time researching that car, before Ehhxekt gave his answer, and I found nothing.  I suppose it will be a hard nut.  May I ask if it is a Ghia, or perhaps something build by Ghia but designed by someone else?
Yes, as already said by Ehhxeht it's a Ghia Fiat 1100 with a special "granluce"-style body...
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #118 on: February 14, 2014, 11:14:44 AM »
Please...  ;)
As Ehhxect has given another answer I suppose I'm allowed to post another guess, but I apologize if I shouldn't.
The car on the left of the picture showing the Fiat 1900A,  (I could say the car you'd have on your right being at the wheel of the 1900A) is a Lancia Aurelia B12.
It is... but please next time wait for my reply before posting another guess...  ;)
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #119 on: February 14, 2014, 11:19:42 AM »
I think that the little spider we can see at the left of the Alfa Romeo 1900 Bat 7, is the Spider Bertone (built both on Fiat 1100/103 Tv base and on Stanguellini 1100 base).
Can you give me the specific name of this version? "Xxxxxxx"
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Please finish this before posting other guesses...
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #120 on: February 14, 2014, 11:23:00 AM »
The little coupé behind the Dodge Zeder is the Fiat Stanguellini Berlinetta by Bertone I believe
Based on what Fiat model? (locked for you)
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #121 on: February 14, 2014, 01:11:40 PM »
The little coupé behind the Dodge Zeder is the Fiat Stanguellini Berlinetta by Bertone I believe
Based on what Fiat model? (locked for you)
Fiat 1100 ?

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #122 on: February 14, 2014, 02:17:24 PM »
The little coupé behind the Dodge Zeder is the Fiat Stanguellini Berlinetta by Bertone I believe
Based on what Fiat model? (locked for you)
Fiat 1100 ?
Yes!
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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #123 on: February 14, 2014, 02:23:46 PM »
That Cabriolet it´s a 1954 Fiat 1100TV Derby Cabriolet by Bertone.

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Re: MPC#045 - 1954 Turin Motor Show
« Reply #124 on: February 14, 2014, 02:55:51 PM »
That Cabriolet it´s a 1954 Fiat 1100TV Derby Cabriolet by Bertone.
Yes!
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