Topic: Solved: Rust never sleeps - 2017 edition

[Wendax]

New series of questions:
1.- Is Rust 12 Italian?
2.- The relationship of Place A with its Rust is by the word Alhambra?
3.- The relationship of Place C with its Rust is by the word Capitol?
4.- In Place E Are the two parallel dark accumulations of carbon?
5.- Place H is in the city of Paris?
6.- 4 of 5 pending Rust are from UK, is that Ok?

1) Yes
2) No
3) No
4) I don't know, but it might be possible.
5) No
6) No

[luisps]

Little advance, new list:
1.- Rust 2 is a transformed English Mini?
2.- Rust 9 Is a car right hand drive but not English?
3.- Rust 12 Is it a car of a brand of the Fiat group?
4.- Rust 13 Is an English truck built by a large group or an independent brand?
5.- Place E Are the large deposits are gasometers?
6.- Place H is located in a large city (more than 100,000 inhabitants) north of Paris

[Wendax]

Little advance, new list:
1.- Rust 2 is a transformed English Mini?
2.- Rust 9 Is a car right hand drive but not English?
3.- Rust 12 Is it a car of a brand of the Fiat group?
4.- Rust 13 Is an English truck built by a large group or an independent brand?
5.- Place E Are the large deposits are gasometers?
6.- Place H is located in a large city (more than 100,000 inhabitants) north of Paris

1) No
2) Yes
3) No
4) English truck built by a large group
5) Yes
6) Yes

[luisps]

I think I've been lucky, only 4 big cities in France north of Paris and the first by alphabetical order is Amiens. Looking for remarkable buildings of Amiens I soon found that Place H is the House of Jules Verne.
And additional questions:
1.- Rust 2 has double steering wheel is it possible that it is from USA and the couple of Place B?
2.- Rust 9 is a rebodied vehicle found in a "barn find” in Portugal?
3.- Rust 12 It's a convertible but it does not look like a super car, also the style is after 1950 does the brand was active before WWII and after 1980?
4.- Rust 13 BMC before the fussion British Leyland?
5.- The Rust corresponding to Place H has the name of one of the books of Jules Verne?
6.- Place E is the Beckton Gasworks?

[Wendax]

I think I've been lucky, only 4 big cities in France north of Paris and the first by alphabetical order is Amiens. Looking for remarkable buildings of Amiens I soon found that Place H is the House of Jules Verne.
And additional questions:
1.- Rust 2 has double steering wheel is it possible that it is from USA and the couple of Place B?
2.- Rust 9 is a rebodied vehicle found in a "barn find” in Portugal?
3.- Rust 12 It's a convertible but it does not look like a super car, also the style is after 1950 does the brand was active before WWII and after 1980?
4.- Rust 13 BMC before the fussion British Leyland?
5.- The Rust corresponding to Place H has the name of one of the books of Jules Verne?
6.- Place E is the Beckton Gasworks?

1) Rust 2 is not American
2) No
3) Yes to both
4) Yes
5) Yes
6) Yes

[luisps]

A little more progress I think I know the mark of Rust 12 is a Moretti.
New questions
1.- Rust 12 Moretti is the partner of Place H?
2.- Rust 13 It's a BMC truck but it does not seem to have an original cabin, is it an externally bodied chassis?
3 .- Of the 3 remaining Rust is one of them American?
4.- Of the 3 remaining Rust, is one of them Portuguese?
5.- Rust 15 you say it is related to Scamp, is it a job of the same designer?
This is enough for tonight ...

[Wendax]

A little more progress I think I know the mark of Rust 12 is a Moretti.
New questions
1.- Rust 12 Moretti is the partner of Place H?
2.- Rust 13 It's a BMC truck but it does not seem to have an original cabin, is it an externally bodied chassis?
3 .- Of the 3 remaining Rust is one of them American?
4.- Of the 3 remaining Rust, is one of them Portuguese?
5.- Rust 15 you say it is related to Scamp, is it a job of the same designer?
This is enough for tonight ...

1) Yes, you are almost there.
2) Yes, but I don't know the coachbuilder.
3) No
4) One car has a Portuguese connection.
5) Rather the same car by a different company

[luisps]

Yes, I got there, very easily .. So Rust 12 Moretti Tour du Monde (In tribute to the book "Le Tour du Monde en 80 jours") and Place H House of Jules Verne is the couple that was looking for.
For today and for the rest of weekend I only ask a question to define the model of the BMC truck. Being a "forward control cabin" should start with F to continue I need to know if it is from before or after 1960.

[Wendax]

Yes, I got there, very easily .. So Rust 12 Moretti Tour du Monde (In tribute to the book "Le Tour du Monde en 80 jours") and Place H House of Jules Verne is the couple that was looking for.
For today and for the rest of weekend I only ask a question to define the model of the BMC truck. Being a "forward control cabin" should start with F to continue I need to know if it is from before or after 1960.

Rust 12 - Place H is correct.
The BMC truck model designation starts with an F and the truck was built after 1960.

[luisps]

So far it has not gone wrong, but from here the slope is becoming steeper ...
Questions to start the week:
1.- Is Rust 2 the one that is related to Portugal?
2.- Is Rust 11 a one off woody shooting brake with chassis and coach work of different origin but both from UK?
3.- BMC's forward control trucks from 1958 to 1964 were the FF that were deployed in three models according to their load capacity 5, 7 or 9 tons. To know the concrete model I need to know if it is lower or higher than 7 ton
4.- Rust 15 was built by a brand still existing?
5.- Place E: As  the BMC of Rust 13, has a special body and it’s red color makes me think of a specific service as a trailer for a fire extinguishing system, As Place E is a fuel industry, my question is ¿Place E Beckton Gas Works is the couple of Rust 13 BMC FF truck?

[Wendax]

So far it has not gone wrong, but from here the slope is becoming steeper ...
Questions to start the week:
1.- Is Rust 2 the one that is related to Portugal?
2.- Is Rust 11 a one off woody shooting brake with chassis and coach work of different origin but both from UK?
3.- BMC's forward control trucks from 1958 to 1964 were the FF that were deployed in three models according to their load capacity 5, 7 or 9 tons. To know the concrete model I need to know if it is lower or higher than 7 ton
4.- Rust 15 was built by a brand still existing?
5.- Place E: As  the BMC of Rust 13, has a special body and it’s red color makes me think of a specific service as a trailer for a fire extinguishing system, As Place E is a fuel industry, my question is ¿Place E Beckton Gas Works is the couple of Rust 13 BMC FF truck?

1) Tell me which car it is and I'll tll you whether it is related to Portugal. 
2) I don't know the coachbuilder, chassis is not British.
3) I don't know the BMC model logic and can't answer this question, but FF is a good beginning.
4) No
5) Yes, the combination is right, but why? It is not any kind of fire engine (This combination locked for you).

[luisps]

Following the same order of the previous questions
1.- Rust 2 I do not think that you consider me a fortune teller, with what I can see I am not able to give the type of car that it is. Without further information I leave this Rust parked for someone more knowledgeable than I
2.- Rust 11. If you do not know the bodybuilder I guess I should just look for the car model of the chassis. It is Italian?
3.- Rust 13. As you do not clarify what I asked for and there are only three options The load capacity is indicated by the letter k followed by a number of three figures so the specific model should be FF k --- Tell me if that number is greater or less than 150.
4.- Rust 15. Is this the only vehicle of that brand?
5. Place E: It was a mistake on my part to explain how I came to the conclusion that Rust 13 is a couple with Place E that I believe is clearly identified. You had not specified in any case that I had to have knowledge of the life and uses of any Rust or Place ... For me it is clear that it only serves to drag a semitrailer.

[Wendax]

Following the same order of the previous questions
1.- Rust 2 I do not think that you consider me a fortune teller, with what I can see I am not able to give the type of car that it is. Without further information I leave this Rust parked for someone more knowledgeable than I
2.- Rust 11. If you do not know the bodybuilder I guess I should just look for the car model of the chassis. It is Italian?
3.- Rust 13. As you do not clarify what I asked for and there are only three options The load capacity is indicated by the letter k followed by a number of three figures so the specific model should be FF k --- Tell me if that number is greater or less than 150.
4.- Rust 15. Is this the only vehicle of that brand?
5. Place E: It was a mistake on my part to explain how I came to the conclusion that Rust 13 is a couple with Place E that I believe is clearly identified. You had not specified in any case that I had to have knowledge of the life and uses of any Rust or Place ... For me it is clear that it only serves to drag a semitrailer.

1) Our fellow puzzlers will be happy to have a go at it. 
2) Not Italian
3) I think no harm is done to the other puzzlers, if I tell you that it is an FFK 100.
4) There were some variations on the theme, but all cars I know of this obscure  maker were related.
5) You still have to tell me what the connection is between the truck and the Beckton Gas Works. No more, no less.

To earn a point, you have to identify a car as well as the somehow related location and explain their connection.

[luisps]

Following the same order:
1.- I am anxious to see if any puzzler solves Rust 2 becaus, at the moment, I will not invest more
time in it
2.- Rust 11, with the right handwheel not UK, not Italy must be French. Talbot France?
3.- Rust 15 Thank you Wendax, but it was not necessary to provoke any anger to other puzzlers because I asked if it was smaller or greater than 150 saying less there is no other alternative than 100.
4.- Rust 15 I do not think I can identify it. Is this mark identified on the network?
5.- Couple Rust 13 - Place E I see that you ask me something that if I do not find it exactly with the proper description I will not be possible to solve it. I do my analysis, which I hope this time I do not be counterproductive to me, being the k100 is supposed to be not destined to carry large loads, also the fact of having a special cabin and the rear wheels covered makes me think of a use of representation of the company as it could be a mobile laboratories or office of representation to the public being the semitrailer of type closed box and perhaps with windows. Is this idea correct?

[Wendax]

Following the same order:
1.- I am anxious to see if any puzzler solves Rust 2 becaus, at the moment, I will not invest more
time in it
2.- Rust 11, with the right handwheel not UK, not Italy must be French. Talbot France?
3.- Rust 15 Thank you Wendax, but it was not necessary to provoke any anger to other puzzlers because I asked if it was smaller or greater than 150 saying less there is no other alternative than 100.
4.- Rust 15 I do not think I can identify it. Is this mark identified on the network?
5.- Couple Rust 13 - Place E I see that you ask me something that if I do not find it exactly with the proper description I will not be possible to solve it. I do my analysis, which I hope this time I do not be counterproductive to me, being the k100 is supposed to be not destined to carry large loads, also the fact of having a special cabin and the rear wheels covered makes me think of a use of representation of the company as it could be a mobile laboratories or office of representation to the public being the semitrailer of type closed box and perhaps with windows. Is this idea correct?

1) Some day it will be moved to the Pro board...
2) It is a Talbot.
4) Yes, this car can be found online, even with additional information that might be useful in this puzzle.
5) Follow that trail!

[luisps]

1.- Rust 11 Since I have located the brand Talbot, can I now ask if it is related to Place A?
2,- Rust 13- Place E. Due to the extra cost of the cabin and external appearance, I think it would most likely be a mobile exhibition room with marketing / merchandising purposals of the Beckton Gas Works company

[Wendax]

1.- Rust 11 Since I have located the brand Talbot, can I now ask if it is related to Place A?
2,- Rust 13- Place E. Due to the extra cost of the cabin and external appearance, I think it would most likely be a mobile exhibition room with marketing / merchandising purposals of the Beckton Gas Works company

1) It's not.
2) Very close. You are almost there. It was a mobile exhibition room, but not only for the Beckton Gas Works. Think a bit more general and you'll find it.

[luisps]

Rust 13- I still do not understand that you ask me, but on Wikipedia I found the following reference to Beckton Gas Works after 1949: "Following nationalization in 1949 the plant was owned by the North Thames Gas Board." Is that name what you ask for?
Rust 15: Can Westside be the brand of that car?

[Wendax]

Rust 13- I still do not understand that you ask me, but on Wikipedia I found the following reference to Beckton Gas Works after 1949: "Following nationalization in 1949 the plant was owned by the North Thames Gas Board." Is that name what you ask for?
Rust 15: Can Westside be the brand of that car?

13) Yes, that is the connection I was looking for. "1962 BMC FFK100 Tractor Unit Reg. No. N/A Chassis No. TBA Originally sold as a half chassis, half cab to North Thames Gas and coachbuilt as a mobile showroom, then sold to Robert Bros Circus in the late 1960s as an advance booking office until the 1980s, then to Fossetts Circus in Ireland thereafter it stayed in various funfair ownership until its return to the mainland in 2007, now awaiting the restorers hand."
15) No

[luisps]

It is time to summarize and reflect:
I have solved 12 of the 15 pairs proposed, not think bud result at the moment. I think I have identified the three remaining places correctly. But now I'm missing out on the rest of Rust and its connections to the respective Place. New questions:
- Rust 2. - Is it original from UK?
- Rust 11 is a French Talbot with English bodywork and is not related to Place A Bradford. Is its partner Place C?
- Rust 15 Is it based on an English chassis other than Mini-Minimoke?
- Place A The Alhambra Theater in Morley St. Bradford, Yorkshire not the couple of Rust 11. This description includes the keyword interconnection with its Rust?
- Place B West front of the Capitol of Washington. This description includes the keyword interconnection with its Rust?
- Place C Monument 25 de Abril in the park Eduardo Vii of Lisbon Portugal This description includes the keyword interconnection with its Rust?

[Wendax]

- Rust 2. - Is it original from UK?
- Rust 11 is a French Talbot with English bodywork and is not related to Place A Bradford. Is its partner Place C?
- Rust 15 Is it based on an English chassis other than Mini-Minimoke?
- Place A The Alhambra Theater in Morley St. Bradford, Yorkshire not the couple of Rust 11. This description includes the keyword interconnection with its Rust?
- Place B West front of the Capitol of Washington. This description includes the keyword interconnection with its Rust?
- Place C Monument 25 de Abril in the park Eduardo Vii of Lisbon Portugal This description includes the keyword interconnection with its Rust?

No
No
Some Mini parts in it as far as I know.
Yes
No
Yes (mainly)

[luisps]

- Is Rust 2 from Western Europe? (Before the disappearance of the Warsaw Pact)
- Rust 11 is connected to Place B through a person related to the construction of the Capitol?
- Rust 15 The engine is an English Ford?
- Place A Is the word Morley  that links it to its Rust?
- Place C Is it the word Park that relates it to its Rust?

[Wendax]

- Is Rust 2 from Western Europe? (Before the disappearance of the Warsaw Pact)
- Rust 11 is connected to Place B through a person related to the construction of the Capitol?
- Rust 15 The engine is an English Ford?
- Place A Is the word Morley  that links it to its Rust?
- Place C Is it the word Park that relates it to its Rust?

1) Yes
2) No
3) No
4) No
5) No

...and moved to the Pro board. Let the sharks enter the tank!

[luisps]

I am very happy to know that my friends pros come to the rescue ...
Anyway, I'll keep looking:
- Is Rust 2 French?
- Rust 11, is the connection to Place B due to something in the picture?
- Rust 15 Is the engine from Citröern 2 CV?
- Place A Is the connection with its Rust the word Bradford?
- Place C Is the connection with its Rust the word Lisboa / Lisbon?

[Wendax]

I am very happy to know that my friends pros come to the rescue ...
Anyway, I'll keep looking:
- Is Rust 2 French?
- Rust 11, is the connection to Place B due to something in the picture?
- Rust 15 Is the engine from Citröern 2 CV?
- Place A Is the connection with its Rust the word Bradford?
- Place C Is the connection with its Rust the word Lisboa / Lisbon?

1) No
2) Rust 11 is already connected to Place D and solved.
3) No
4) Yes (and no, as it can be connected even more general)
5) No