Author Topic: Solved NIC#907 - Coffield Mk III H-mod  (Read 2405 times)

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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2018, 11:06:09 AM »
Cosworth?

No. You're on the right lines in a way - both Lotus and Cosworth were associated with the maker of the engine.
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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2018, 11:21:27 AM »
Ford?!
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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2018, 12:37:34 PM »
Ford?!

Yes, that was the engine fitted to this car. However, it was in slightly unusual form.
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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2018, 06:13:01 PM »
Not a mid-engined V4?

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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2018, 04:13:58 AM »
Not a mid-engined V4?

Not a V4. Mid-engined by the looks of things.
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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2018, 05:21:54 PM »
It is not one of the 105e engined Begras is it?

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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2018, 04:13:40 AM »
It is not one of the 105e engined Begras is it?

Now we're getting somewhere (sort of). The engine was a 105E unit, but it's not a Begra. Work out what race series and you may solve this.
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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2018, 11:42:38 AM »
Well I assume we are talking about early-mid 1960s and the SCCA G-Modified class. This had been the province of Lotus 11s and Lola mk1s until a Merlin came along. In the meantime Begras and the associated Beach and Grady cars were quite successful, but if it's not them I am struggling. Is it a Bobsy?

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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2018, 11:52:28 AM »
Well I assume we are talking about early-mid 1960s and the SCCA G-Modified class. This had been the province of Lotus 11s and Lola mk1s until a Merlin came along. In the meantime Begras and the associated Beach and Grady cars were quite successful, but if it's not them I am struggling. Is it a Bobsy?

It's not a Bobsy. We are indeed in the SCCA arena, but it's not G-Mod even if the choice of engine would suggest so. I said there was something unusual!
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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2018, 03:09:45 PM »
So was the capacity altered to fit it into another class - eg reduced to fit H-mod.

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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2018, 03:50:52 PM »
So was the capacity altered to fit it into another class - eg reduced to fit H-mod.

Bingo! That's exactly what happened. Now - who built this car?
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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2018, 03:26:18 PM »
Not found the picture, but in the most obscure place imaginable, found reference to the late Frank Davis who used to race one of Don Millers 42 sports cars with a Ford engine sleeved to 850cc(?) - from about 1963.

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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2018, 03:57:17 PM »
Not found the picture, but in the most obscure place imaginable, found reference to the late Frank Davis who used to race one of Don Millers 42 sports cars with a Ford engine sleeved to 850cc(?) - from about 1963.

Not him I'm afraid.
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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2018, 08:56:26 PM »
I have searched every site I know, and I have an amazing knowledge of SCCA H-mods now, but they all have Saab or Crosley engines. Where have I gone wrong?
Were the builder's other cars also H-Mods?

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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #39 on: January 21, 2018, 06:33:17 AM »
I have searched every site I know, and I have an amazing knowledge of SCCA H-mods now, but they all have Saab or Crosley engines. Where have I gone wrong?
Were the builder's other cars also H-Mods?

The source of my photo suggests that 6 cars were built, all to H-mod spec. There is no mention of other cars built by him for other formulae, although this could be the case. I don't know.
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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #40 on: January 21, 2018, 12:37:53 PM »
Was this the only one with the Ford engine?

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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #41 on: January 21, 2018, 03:16:54 PM »
Was this the only one with the Ford engine?

I believe some of them had other engines.
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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #42 on: January 26, 2018, 03:22:20 PM »
Just can't find this so I must resort to firing odd h-mod names at you that contain what looks like a builders name - does it begin with a letter between a-k?

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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #43 on: January 26, 2018, 05:03:01 PM »
Just can't find this so I must resort to firing odd h-mod names at you that contain what looks like a builders name - does it begin with a letter between a-k?

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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #44 on: January 26, 2018, 05:37:45 PM »
Hall-scott?

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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #45 on: January 26, 2018, 05:40:01 PM »
Bryan or Brian?

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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #46 on: January 27, 2018, 04:01:20 AM »
Neither pf those, but alphabetically the name you require is very shortly after Bryan.
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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #47 on: January 27, 2018, 06:26:10 PM »
Thank you for the hint! If it begins with C I only know two cars for which I can find no real details -  Clovis and Case - and I have no confidence in either......

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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #48 on: January 27, 2018, 06:36:50 PM »
or Cleary?

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Re: NIC#907
« Reply #49 on: January 28, 2018, 05:49:28 AM »
None of those three, I'm afraid.

(I'm also afraid that I have got this all wrong. You are clearly searching all records of H-mod cars and have not identified a car of which 6 were supposedly made. This has got me worried that I have misconstrued the text of my source. However, I have done a google search using the name of the maker, and my information does seem correct. In the same source article, someone else claims to have another of his cars, and uses a name for the car which is hypenated, and also includes the name of another H-mod maker, i.e. he calls his car a ????????-other car. However, it seems that this latter name only relates to the bodywork, and not the base car. I doubt that this garbled info will be a lot of use!)
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