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Solved: gte4289_17 Milmor Mark 5 of Bryan Small
« on: October 22, 2018, 07:03:49 PM »
Please identify this vehicle and builder for one point:
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Re: gte4289_17
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2018, 10:06:37 AM »
I have a photo of it trailing Arthur Mallock's U2 in 1962, but no mention of what it is. A guess is Mike Pilbeam's first car from 1959.
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Re: gte4289_17
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2018, 10:09:25 AM »
First Lotus?
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Re: gte4289_17
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2018, 11:09:20 AM »
Quote from: Lavrakas on October 23, 2018, 10:06:37 AM
I have a photo of it trailing Arthur Mallock's U2 in 1962, but no mention of what it is. A guess is Mike Pilbeam's first car from 1959.
Funny thing is I first saw this car in that very same photo. Not Pilbeam, however.
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Re: gte4289_17
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2018, 11:10:12 AM »
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Re: gte4289_17
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2018, 02:18:29 PM »
Experts?
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Re: gte4289_17
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2018, 03:50:38 PM »
Eric Broadley's first Lola?
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Re: gte4289_17
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2018, 06:18:33 PM »
Quote from: D-type on October 29, 2018, 03:50:38 PM
Eric Broadley's first Lola?
Not that
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Re: gte4289_17
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2018, 06:47:50 PM »
Yimkin?
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Re: gte4289_17
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2018, 07:20:30 PM »
It looks familiar but I'm certainly not certain!
I think I remember the early Len Terry designed Terrier Ford-engined car that Brian Hart owned and drove looked like that, so that's my guess for the moment.
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Re: gte4289_17
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2018, 07:50:34 PM »
Quote from: Allan L on October 29, 2018, 07:20:30 PM
It looks familiar but I'm certainly not certain!
I think I remember the early Len Terry designed Terrier Ford-engined car that Brian Hard owned and drove looked like that, so that's my guess for the moment.
Sorry, but not that.
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Re: gte4289_17
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2018, 06:18:23 AM »
Quote from: tobytwirl on October 29, 2018, 06:47:50 PM
Yimkin?
now I think a bit more, I think Tobytwirl's right
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Re: gte4289_17
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2018, 11:15:30 AM »
Quote from: Allan L on October 30, 2018, 06:18:23 AM
Quote from: tobytwirl on October 29, 2018, 06:47:50 PM
Yimkin?
now I think a bit more, I think Tobytwirl's right
No, this is not a Yimkin.
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Re: gte4289_17
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2018, 01:45:00 PM »
Ironically I now have a photo of this car racing a Yimkin at Silverstone - and recognisable by its reg.no - but labelled a Terrier. Do you have it as a DRW?
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Re: gte4289_17
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2018, 02:01:47 PM »
Quote from: tobytwirl on October 30, 2018, 01:45:00 PM
Ironically I now have a photo of this car racing a Yimkin at Silverstone - and recognisable by its reg.no - but labelled a Terrier. Do you have it as a DRW?
No. By the way, I have detailed information on this vehicle from multiple sources, including several online sources. It is not terribly obscure.
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Re: gte4289_17
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2018, 02:13:54 PM »
The front suspension looks very similar to a Lotus 6 - any connection?
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Re: gte4289_17
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2018, 02:27:05 PM »
Quote from: tobytwirl on October 30, 2018, 02:13:54 PM
The front suspension looks very similar to a Lotus 6 - any connection?
No, the suspension in this car is of much more humble origin.
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Re: gte4289_17
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2018, 04:18:15 PM »
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Re: gte4289_17
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2018, 04:22:41 PM »
It looks like the split Ford axle used by so many 'Ford Specials' and that separates it from the visually similar Yimkins and Terriers. Is it an 1172 unique car, or was it manufactured on a small scale.
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Re: gte4289_17
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2018, 04:52:51 PM »
Quote from: tobytwirl on October 30, 2018, 04:22:41 PM
It looks like the split Ford axle used by so many 'Ford Specials' and that separates it from the visually similar Yimkins and Terriers. Is it an 1172 unique car, or was it manufactured on a small scale.
Manufactured on a small scale, to be customized with different different engine options, etc.
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Re: gte4289_17
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2018, 05:42:18 PM »
Is it Arthur Mallock in the U2 ?
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Re: gte4289_17
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2018, 06:00:23 PM »
Is it either a Milmor or an Aquila?
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Re: gte4289_17
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2018, 07:01:25 PM »
Quote from: D-type on October 30, 2018, 05:42:18 PM
Is it Arthur Mallock in the U2 ?
It is not. (See replies #1 and #3 above.)
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Re: gte4289_17
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2018, 07:02:27 PM »
Quote from: tobytwirl on October 30, 2018, 06:00:23 PM
Is it either a Milmor or an Aquila?
It is a Milmor. Locked for you to provide the model and builder.
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Re: gte4289_17
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2018, 09:14:36 PM »
It is the Brian Small Milmor mkV 1172. I cannot find who originally built them, but this one was prepared by the owner. It was very successful coming second in the 1172 Formula championship in 63, 65 and 66, and 1st in 64.
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