Author Topic: Solved: GTE 179 - 1983 G.L.M. Auto Espace (Read 2497 times)

gte4289 · « **on:** October 09, 2019, 05:44:17 PM »

Please identify this vehicle for a point.

gte4289 · « **Reply #1 on:** October 16, 2019, 05:04:16 PM »

Experts?

luisps · « **Reply #2 on:** October 17, 2019, 03:21:24 AM »

DECSA LISA Made in San Marino in the years 1983-84

gte4289 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 17, 2019, 03:38:26 AM »

Quote from: luisps on October 17, 2019, 03:21:24 AM

DECSA LISA Made in San Marino in the years 1983-84

While I can certainly see the resemblance, this is not the DECSA

luisps · « **Reply #4 on:** October 17, 2019, 04:42:41 AM »

Maybe it's the Lambretta Willam Lisa version for the French market.

gte4289 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 17, 2019, 03:15:10 PM »

Quote from: luisps on October 17, 2019, 04:42:41 AM

Maybe it's the Lambretta Willam Lisa version for the French market.

No, not that either

kwgibbs · « **Reply #6 on:** October 17, 2019, 03:50:56 PM »

Is it an Asian microcar?

luisps · « **Reply #7 on:** October 17, 2019, 03:53:37 PM »

I´m still thinking that is a Decsa Lisa derivated so another possibility is the Dutch Lisa 1000 Of 1 m of width proposed for handicaped people.

gte4289 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 17, 2019, 05:21:29 PM »

Quote from: kwgibbs on October 17, 2019, 03:50:56 PM

Is it an Asian microcar?

Not Asian

Quote from: luisps on October 17, 2019, 03:53:37 PM

I´m still thinking that is a Decsa Lisa derivated so another possibility is the Dutch Lisa 1000 Of 1 m of width proposed for handicaped people.

The only information I have on this car is the name and general location of the manufacturer, the model name and the year of production. It may very well be derived from or otherwise related to the Decsa Lisa, but there is nothing in my information to indicate such a connection. As far as I am aware, they are simply two sub-compact/microcars which hail from the same era and share a physical resemblance. Neither the make nor model name contain the words "Decsa" or "Lisa" and the manufacturer (not Lambretta) is located in neither San Marino nor the Netherlands.

gte4289 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 17, 2019, 05:36:37 PM »

Quote from: gte4289 on October 17, 2019, 05:21:29 PM

The only information I have on this car is the name and general location of the manufacturer, the model name and the year of production. It may very well be derived from or otherwise related to the Decsa Lisa, but there is nothing in my information to indicate such a connection. As far as I am aware, they are simply two sub-compact/microcars which hail from the same era and share a physical resemblance. Neither the make nor model name contain the words "Decsa" or "Lisa" and the manufacturer (not Lambretta) is located in neither San Marino nor the Netherlands.

Of course, we can discuss this more after the puzzle is solved, but here's a quick physical comparison. There is definitely a resemblance.

luisps · « **Reply #10 on:** October 17, 2019, 06:39:25 PM »

The Lambretta Willam that you show is in reality the Lambretta Willam Amica built in Italy by BMA. The Lambretta Willam Lisa appeared in the magazine "auto-journal" nº 14/15 of 1982 (pag.123) with the attached picture

luisps · « **Reply #11 on:** October 17, 2019, 06:49:03 PM »

There is another derivated of the LISA now in Germany that was the ATW Lissy 50 that was also offered as electric conversion in 1987 but no picture founded. ATW means Auto Thomas Walther.

gte4289 · « **Reply #12 on:** October 17, 2019, 08:50:06 PM »

Quote from: luisps on October 17, 2019, 06:49:03 PM

There is another derivated of the LISA now in Germany that was the ATW Lissy 50 that was also offered as electric conversion in 1987 but no picture founded. ATW means Auto Thomas Walther.

It is not this

Wendax · « **Reply #13 on:** October 18, 2019, 02:10:05 AM »

Quote from: luisps on October 17, 2019, 06:49:03 PM

There is another derivated of the LISA now in Germany that was the ATW Lissy 50 that was also offered as electric conversion in 1987 but no picture founded. ATW means Auto Thomas Walther.

Here is a picture of the electrified ATW Lissy: https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2012-41/solved-wendax-674-atw-oko-lissy

gte4289 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 18, 2019, 03:24:55 AM »

Quote from: Wendax on October 18, 2019, 02:10:05 AM

Quote from: luisps on October 17, 2019, 06:49:03 PM
There is another derivated of the LISA now in Germany that was the ATW Lissy 50 that was also offered as electric conversion in 1987 but no picture founded. ATW means Auto Thomas Walther.
Here is a picture of the electrified ATW Lissy: https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2012-41/solved-wendax-674-atw-oko-lissy

The resemblance is there, but there are differences, such as the shape of the side windows, placement of the B-pillar, and possibly even the length of the hood/bonnet. Regardless, even if it is another derivation, the puzzle car is not branded as a DECSA/Lambretta/ATW or LISA/Lissy.