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SOLVED: Djetset 1078 - Saab 60
« on: August 01, 2020, 12:13:38 PM »
An easy question for an easy point. Please name the make and model of this car (with no Lock for correctly identifying the make!).
« Last Edit: August 15, 2020, 01:27:27 PM by Djetset »
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Re: Djetset 1078
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2020, 09:01:03 AM »
Saab 96 V4 made by Saab-Valmet (Finland)?

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Re: Djetset 1078
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2020, 09:04:46 AM »
Saab 96 V4 made by Saab-Valmet (Finland)?
It's a Saab, but not a Valmet-built 96 V4.
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Re: Djetset 1078
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2020, 09:34:57 AM »
 Saab prototype "Paddan" to test the technology of the upcoming Saab 99 in a widened Saab 96 body?

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Re: Djetset 1078
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2020, 01:02:19 PM »
Saab prototype "Paddan" to test the technology of the upcoming Saab 99 in a widened Saab 96 body?
A good thought, but not that one I'm afraid.
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Re: Djetset 1078
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2020, 10:25:19 AM »
Easy for an Expert?
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Re: Djetset 1078
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2020, 12:23:54 PM »
Saab 96 Electric Conversion
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Re: Djetset 1078
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2020, 12:25:59 PM »
Saab 96 Electric Conversion
Afraid not.
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Re: Djetset 1078
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2020, 12:29:34 PM »
Saab 96 Jubileum
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Re: Djetset 1078
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2020, 12:33:09 PM »
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Re: Djetset 1078
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2020, 02:02:09 PM »
I've found a model called the Saab 60, is that it?
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Re: Djetset 1078
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2020, 08:11:25 PM »
Is this the Shrike variant, with the two-stroke engine in 1967-1968 when the 96 went to the V-4 engine?

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Re: Djetset 1078
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2020, 04:02:13 AM »
Ok, I think it is an ordinary Saab 96 with a 2-stroke engine, built around 1964 in Trollhättan.

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Re: Djetset 1078
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2020, 08:42:32 AM »
Although based around a Trollhattan-built two-stroke Saab 96, D-Type gets the point as this is actually a Saab 60 from 1962, a rare 60bhp RHD model unique to the British market (and the only other Saab model,  besides the Delta-based 600, not to be numbered with a '9').  Here are more details and photos;

The Saab 60 was a 'special'. It was a limited edition modification of the 1962 Saab 96, peculiar to the UK. Modifications were carried out at Saab (GB) Ltd. in Slough.

In the early 1960s, Erik Carlsson and his little Saab 96 two-stroke achieved a legendary series of victories in the RAC Rally and Monte Carlo Rally (among others). In honour of these successes "against the odds" and in view of the high demand in the UK for a 'sport' model (the Saab Sport), which was not yet available in right-hand drive form, the Saab UK importers of created a special series of approximately 56 modified Saab 96 cars, between June 1962 and April 1963. Thus was the Saab 60 born.

The Saab's standard 45 bhp (34 kW; 46 PS) was increased to 60 bhp (45 kW; 61 PS) by engine modification. The crankshaft was changed, the inlet ports were lowered and the exhaust ports raised. The carburettor and ignition settings were modified. A Saab Sport exhaust system was fitted. The suspension was lowered, by removing one 'turn' from each coil spring and Koni shock absorbers and Pirelli Cinturato radial-ply tyres were fitted. The three-speed gearbox was swapped for a four-speed box (but the original speedometer was left in situ, with its three-speed markings). A Smith's tachometer was also fitted. The engine modifications were executed by Mike Langton and the blocks were initialled and numbered by him. A Porsche "60" badge was requisitioned for the boot lid motif, in order to denote the car's special status and upgraded power output. An Oleopress fire extinguisher was fitted.
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Re: SOLVED: Djetset 1078 - Saab 60
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2020, 11:29:23 AM »
Sorry, Djetset, but that was confusing.

The first photo in this thread clearly shows a Saab 96 'Longnose' - a model first built in the autumn of 1963.
I found the original photo of this red Saab 96, which you modified and mirrored.

I'm not puzzling here for long. Up to now I thought, if a photo is shown, it must be a photo of the car you are looking for - and not a symbolic representation.

Or is that not the case?

Excuse me for asking, but I am a bit surprised.
« Last Edit: August 16, 2020, 12:24:54 PM by alltag »

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Re: SOLVED: Djetset 1078 - Saab 60
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2020, 12:12:45 PM »
Thanks for your question Alltag. The photo shows a two-stroke Saab, with the image taken from an old Saab GB file (where I worked as the head of product planning for 15 years, including time also working in Trollhatten and Brussels) about the unique UK-market 60 model. Sadly only one example of the c.50 Saab 60s made seems to have survived today.
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