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Re: Allemano's comeback - third
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2019, 04:52:48 PM »

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Re: Allemano's comeback - third
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2019, 05:13:02 PM »
- who made the bodywork...
- who designed it...
Are both of these elements Italian?

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Re: Allemano's comeback - third
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2019, 10:38:34 PM »
- who made the bodywork...
- who designed it...
Are both of these elements Italian?
yes!

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Re: Allemano's comeback - third
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2019, 10:39:32 PM »

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Re: Allemano's comeback - third
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2019, 11:03:20 PM »
Veritas Meteor by ...


Veritas is correct!
and if Stabilimenti Farina is not, then Pinin Farina?
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Re: Allemano's comeback - third
« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2019, 12:42:21 AM »
Neither Pinin nor Stabilimenti Farina

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Re: Allemano's comeback - third
« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2019, 03:21:53 AM »
BTW: as far as I can tell it's not a Veritas Meteor

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Re: Allemano's comeback - third
« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2019, 03:28:28 AM »
Coachwork by Colli?

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Re: Allemano's comeback - third
« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2019, 03:28:54 AM »

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Re: Allemano's comeback - third
« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2019, 04:15:45 AM »
This one did not survive, I suppose

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Re: Allemano's comeback - third
« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2019, 04:22:39 AM »
Veritas by Riva di Merate?

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Re: Allemano's comeback - third
« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2019, 04:29:38 AM »
Veritas by Riva di Merate?
:thumbsup: Locked for you to fill in the missing details..

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Re: Allemano's comeback - third
« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2019, 04:30:03 AM »
This one did not survive, I suppose
most probably not

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Re: Allemano's comeback - third
« Reply #38 on: February 07, 2019, 10:42:12 AM »
I suppose the design could be referred to Mario Riva and Guido Cattaneo. It's quite lookalike to Fiat 1100E/1400 Coupé and 6c2500 Lurani Coupé, both from 1950...so I guess this Veritas is from 1950 too.

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Re: Allemano's comeback - third
« Reply #39 on: February 07, 2019, 11:41:51 AM »
I suppose the design could be referred to Mario Riva and Guido Cattaneo. It's quite lookalike to Fiat 1100E/1400 Coupé and 6c2500 Lurani Coupé, both from 1950...so I guess this Veritas is from 1950 too.
not quite.. one more try!

I need the base: both companies were already mentioned, but I need the engine it had
Coachbuilder is Riva. The design goes back to somebody already mentioned as well..
The year is still wrong.

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Re: Allemano's comeback - third
« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2019, 05:35:54 PM »
Veritas-bmw RS based, 1948, Lurani design?

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Re: Allemano's comeback - third
« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2019, 06:01:29 PM »
Or the BMW Veritas RS "Tipo Monza" for Count Giovanni Lurani Cernuschi?
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Re: Allemano's comeback - third
« Reply #42 on: February 08, 2019, 02:20:10 AM »
Or the BMW Veritas RS "Tipo Monza" for Count Giovanni Lurani Cernuschi?
Maybe it wasn't plain to see, but it still was locked for targhediferro.  ;)

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Re: Allemano's comeback - third
« Reply #43 on: February 08, 2019, 02:32:24 AM »
Veritas-bmw RS based, 1948, Lurani design?
Almost correct. It's based on a Veritas BMW 328 according to my source and the year is 1949, but the nickpicky days are over.. Point for targhediferro!
Quote: "BMW-Veritas 328 di Giovanni Lurani, carrozzeria Riva, 1949"

Thanks to our great Paul Jaray I found this car which is not featured in Alessandro Sannia's Riva book. Paul told him about the car, but obviousely it was too late. The chapter was closed.
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According to Rosellen's Veritas book Lurani's car is a BMW 328 rebodied by a Turinese coachbuilder named Caracciolo and was brought to Veritas because of engine problems. But Rosellen (aka Thyssen-Bornemisza) may be wrong(again).

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According to Rosellen's Veritas book Lurani's car is a BMW 328 rebodied by a Turinese coachbuilder named Caracciolo and was brought to Veritas because of engine problems. But Rosellen (aka Thyssen-Bornemisza) may be wrong(again).
Same pics in the Rosellen book?

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Exactly those three

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The car has a Como number plate. Merate is not too far away (~ 35 km). Were Merate cars equipped with Como plates back then? Maybe the Italian members know.

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Re: Allemano's comeback - third
« Reply #48 on: February 08, 2019, 12:02:37 PM »
Or the BMW Veritas RS "Tipo Monza" for Count Giovanni Lurani Cernuschi?
Maybe it wasn't plain to see, but it still was locked for targhediferro.  ;)

My apologies.
I wouldn't have got this without his post anyway...
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Thank you for the point....Merate had Como plates, and the front of this Veritas is so similar to Fiat 1400 Coupé Riva that I dare to say that it very hard to think that a "never heard by anybody" Mr. Caracciolo could have coachbuilt it.