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The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
« on: May 28, 2010, 04:40:05 AM »
Chris Bangle rumored to be headed back to Fiat...

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Re: The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2010, 04:50:12 AM »
Well, it took BMW quite a while to recover since he left...
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Re: The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2010, 05:16:54 AM »
Quote from: Allemano on May 28, 2010, 04:50:12 AM
Well, it took BMW quite a while to recover since he left...
Recover from strong sales of the 5 series?
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Re: The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2010, 05:20:52 AM »
No, from his 'controversial' design.
The 5 series was a big seller not because of Bangle but in spite of him.
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Re: The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2010, 05:26:01 AM »
Quote from: Allemano on May 28, 2010, 05:20:52 AM
No, from his 'controversial' design.
The 5 series was a big seller not because of Bangle but in spite of him.
Let's agree to disagree.

Because the 5-series will be heralded in 20 years time as ahead of time.
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Re: The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2010, 05:34:44 AM »
The 5 series is one of his more successful designs and yes, it was a big hit,
but don't let us talk about the awful 7-series of his regency.

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Re: The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2010, 06:09:30 AM »
Quote from: DeAutogids.nl on May 28, 2010, 05:26:01 AM
Because the 5-series will be heralded in 20 years time as ahead of time.

Oh, my.  :P
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Re: The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2010, 06:22:15 AM »
This is fitting, as Chrysler styling obviously had a big impact on young Chris Bangle in his formative years:




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Re: The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2010, 06:32:17 AM »
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on May 28, 2010, 06:09:30 AM
Quote from: DeAutogids.nl on May 28, 2010, 05:26:01 AM
Because the 5-series will be heralded in 20 years time as ahead of time.

Oh, my.  :P
Remember the Ford Scorpio? Many of the design cues there are still found on modern Ford's, but also on Fiat, Renault and even BMW.

I meant of course with my sentence that the "...5-series design will be..."
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Re: The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2010, 06:47:08 AM »
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Re: The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2010, 08:28:24 AM »

Quote from: DeAutogids.nl on May 28, 2010, 05:26:01 AM
Because the 5-series will be heralded in 20 years time as ahead of time.
That is a bet I'd take.
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Re: The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2010, 08:35:08 AM »
Quote from: Ultra on May 28, 2010, 08:28:24 AM

Quote from: DeAutogids.nl on May 28, 2010, 05:26:01 AM
Because the 5-series will be heralded in 20 years time as ahead of time.
That is a bet I'd take.

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Re: The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2010, 08:36:56 AM »
Qualify the terms of the bet and then make it 50.
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Re: The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2010, 08:41:39 AM »
Something like

I bet in 20 years time, the BMW 5-series design will be seen by automotive historians as ahead of time

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Re: The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2010, 09:46:17 AM »
Past designs are seldom heralded in retrospect, for being less congruent than their forebears or contemporary works, nor for adding baroque elements.  As BMW's were still aspirational automobiles due to their engineering and abilities, their styling (good or bad) has therefore been copied by competitors,
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Re: The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2010, 10:25:30 AM »
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on May 28, 2010, 09:46:17 AM
Past designs are seldom heralded in retrospect, for being less congruent than their forebears or contemporary works, nor for adding baroque elements.  As BMW's were still aspirational automobiles due to their engineering and abilities, their styling (good or bad) has therefore been copied by competitors,
Could someone translate that into English for me?
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Re: The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2010, 10:31:55 AM »
Quote from: DeAutogids.nl on May 28, 2010, 10:25:30 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on May 28, 2010, 09:46:17 AM
Past designs are seldom heralded in retrospect, for being less congruent than their forebears or contemporary works, nor for adding baroque elements.  As BMW's were still aspirational automobiles due to their engineering and abilities, their styling (good or bad) has therefore been copied by competitors,
Could someone translate that into English for me?

The Bangle 5 series design sucks and history is unlikely to ever think otherwise.

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Re: The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
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Re: The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2010, 10:51:28 AM »
It does have its uses.
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Re: The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2010, 11:27:41 AM »
Quote from: Ultra on May 28, 2010, 10:31:55 AM
The Bangle 5 series design sucks and history is unlikely to ever think otherwise.

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Yes, that's a apt summary; I'm glad you were able to understand.
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Re: The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2010, 05:47:57 PM »
Just what is Baroque here?
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Re: The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2010, 02:40:28 AM »
I know better than to go into detail, telling a guy why his girlfriend is ugly. So, let'a agree to disagree.
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Re: The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2010, 09:19:15 AM »
As a matter of fact, I don't drive the car, have never done so and will never do. So I am just wondering.
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Re: The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2010, 07:20:48 PM »
Now, Now, Lets not close the book on CHRYSLER just yet.
Like the phoenix, MOPAR will rise again from the ashes and take its rightful place again as an automotive powerhouse.
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Re: The Final Nail in Chrysler's Coffin?
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2014, 10:33:43 AM »
Thought they'd gone in the early 80s when the sold up to Peugeot for £1!
then they came back trying to drag Mercedes down.
Now are they trying to kill Fiat off with rebadged bravos?
Horrible reputation in Europe...
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