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SOLVED: si_208 - Adler - 13/30 Coupé - Erdmann & Rossi - 1914
« on: February 13, 2022, 06:53:13 AM »
Wicker chair as a model?
Manufactorer, type, coachbuilder and year of production for one point.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_208
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2022, 06:55:22 AM »
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_208
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2022, 07:03:28 AM »
Horch 10/35, 1921? 

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Re: si_208
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2022, 07:09:04 AM »
Neither Horch, nor 1921. You're just too fast...  ;)
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_208
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2022, 05:05:19 PM »
Adler?

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Re: si_208
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2022, 05:16:32 PM »
Yes.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_208
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2022, 05:56:53 PM »
...a 9/24PS, of 1914?

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Re: si_208
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2022, 05:59:34 PM »
1914: Yes, but not a 9/24. Locked for you.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_208
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2022, 12:28:36 PM »
KL 6/16 ?

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Re: si_208
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2022, 12:48:40 PM »
No, stronger.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_208
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2022, 12:56:16 PM »
12/30 PS ?

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Re: si_208
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2022, 01:18:18 PM »
My source says 13/30, but 2014 does not fit in with this. So that's fine with me, after more than 100 years, the sources can be questionable.
Now only the coachbuilder is missing.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_208
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2022, 02:18:06 PM »
Erdmann & Rossi (to my surprise!).

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Re: si_208
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2022, 02:23:32 PM »
Berliners are always good for a surprise. Here is your next point.  :applause:
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: SOLVED: si_208 - Adler - 13/30 Coupé - Erdmann & Rossi - 1914
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2022, 05:38:51 PM »
Merci!!

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SOLVED: si_440 - Adler - 13/30 PS Coupé - by Erdmann & Rossi - 1914
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2023, 08:18:14 PM »
An elegant city coupe.
Who built it, on what basis, when was it built and what was the type designation?
There is a whole point for the complete answer.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_440
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2023, 12:56:23 PM »
Does any expert have an idea?
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_440
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2023, 12:54:46 PM »
Up to the Profs
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: si_440
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2023, 03:23:32 PM »
Adler 12-30ps Coupé Erdmann & Rossi 1914

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Re: si_440
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2023, 03:48:36 PM »
Yes, but with me it's even a 13/30. And again there's a point.
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Re: SOLVED: si_440 - Adler - 13/30 PS Coupé - by Erdmann & Rossi - 1914
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2023, 11:33:30 PM »
Thanks for the point! But I didn’t find model 13/30 in all well-known publications and in this table

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Re: SOLVED: si_440 - Adler - 13/30 PS Coupé - by Erdmann & Rossi - 1914
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2023, 06:34:53 AM »
In your list there is a 12/30 hp 3.1L from 1912 to 1914, but no indication of body style. At that time, this was often the work of outside companies. But this one tax horsepower doesn't make much difference anyway.
Otherwise, this list is really great, thank you.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: SOLVED: si_208 - Adler - 13/30 Coupé - Erdmann & Rossi - 1914
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2025, 06:24:53 PM »
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