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Re: FW #490
« Reply #50 on: August 22, 2023, 04:05:13 PM »
Yes

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Re: FW #490
« Reply #51 on: August 22, 2023, 04:24:42 PM »
Post war?

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Re: FW #490
« Reply #52 on: August 23, 2023, 02:46:29 AM »
Yes

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Re: FW #490
« Reply #53 on: August 23, 2023, 03:41:31 AM »
1948?

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Re: FW #490
« Reply #54 on: August 23, 2023, 04:13:37 AM »
Yes

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Re: FW #490
« Reply #55 on: September 15, 2023, 09:12:32 AM »
Masters?

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Re: FW #490
« Reply #56 on: September 17, 2023, 12:05:43 AM »
SVA (Società Valdostana Automobili) with supercharged 820cc (or 813cc, depending on the source) four cylinder motor intended for midget racing in the USA?
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Re: FW #490
« Reply #57 on: September 17, 2023, 01:53:21 AM »
No

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Re: FW #490
« Reply #58 on: September 17, 2023, 01:54:42 AM »
Any connection to Vincenzo Leone?

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Re: FW #490
« Reply #59 on: September 17, 2023, 03:11:38 AM »
No

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Re: FW #490
« Reply #60 on: September 17, 2023, 03:26:23 AM »
Was the builder a manufacturer of road vehicles?

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Re: FW #490
« Reply #61 on: September 17, 2023, 04:16:00 AM »
No

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Re: FW #490
« Reply #62 on: September 17, 2023, 04:49:55 AM »
A builder of other race cars?

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Re: FW #490
« Reply #63 on: September 17, 2023, 07:00:59 AM »
Yes

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Re: FW #490
« Reply #64 on: September 17, 2023, 09:07:14 AM »
Gigi Platé's 8c 1500. It was tested in Milan at the Idroscalo in 1948.
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Re: FW #490
« Reply #65 on: September 17, 2023, 02:46:21 PM »
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Re: SOLVED: FW #490: Platé 8C 1500 compressore, 1948
« Reply #66 on: September 19, 2023, 06:17:04 AM »
Nothing about this car seems to be available on Google. It's not in any of my reference books about that period, nor on a well-known website of rare and unraced GP cars.

Does anyone know any more about it? Who was Gigi Plate - any relation to Enrico Plate? Did he design and build the engine himself?
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Re: SOLVED: FW #490: Platé 8C 1500 compressore, 1948
« Reply #67 on: September 19, 2023, 07:58:20 AM »
Some pictures attached

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Re: SOLVED: FW #490: Platé 8C 1500 compressore, 1948
« Reply #68 on: September 19, 2023, 08:12:59 AM »
Some more information attached

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Re: SOLVED: FW #490: Platé 8C 1500 compressore, 1948
« Reply #69 on: September 19, 2023, 11:48:27 AM »
Thank you.
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Re: SOLVED: FW #490: Platé 8C 1500 compressore, 1948
« Reply #70 on: September 20, 2023, 06:37:54 AM »
I have now had the chance to investigate this car - it was entered as a Talbot 700 on every occasion it raced and was heavily based on that pre-war racer. It entered the Italian GP in 1948/49/50 with no success whatsoever. The car was re-discovered in 2022 and I attach a photo of the car before restoration. Luigi (Gigi) Plate actually had his name stamped on the engine block so presumably it was newly cast and not just an old Talbot item.
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Re: SOLVED: FW #490: Platé 8C 1500 compressore, 1948
« Reply #71 on: September 20, 2023, 12:59:26 PM »
Here the stats of the Italian GP 1950: Platé Special, DNS

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Re: SOLVED: FW #490: Platé 8C 1500 compressore, 1948
« Reply #72 on: September 20, 2023, 01:09:06 PM »
My source says, that only the base of the engine is Talbot-related, all other parts of the car not
I attached a picture of another Platé-creation, based on the Talbot 700 (car on the left), Grand Prix Geneva, July 21, 1946
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Re: SOLVED: FW #490: Platé 8C 1500 compressore, 1948
« Reply #73 on: September 20, 2023, 01:12:35 PM »
My source was the appropriate A Record of Grand Prix and Voiturette Racing, which is very comprehensive but is known to have errors. I agree with you that there is very little Talbot left in the puzzle car.
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Re: SOLVED: FW #490: Platé 8C 1500 compressore, 1948
« Reply #74 on: September 20, 2023, 05:59:02 PM »
I remember that there was an article on the Platé/Talbot cars in the VSCC Bulletin some decades ago: I'll see if I can find it and if I can, then I'll scan it and post it.
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