Topic: Solved: Djetset 754 - Renaudi by Esmond Foster

[Djetset]

What is this for a point please (builder and model name)?

[Djetset]

Experts?

[Djetset]

Pros?

[oko94]

Looks like Renault 21 Turbo wheels. Renault-based ?

[Djetset]

Looks like Renault 21 Turbo wheels. Renault-based ?

Yes, there is some Renault in there!  Locked to you until your next reply to tell me what it is.

[oko94]

No clue. Renault 5-based ?

[Djetset]

No clue. Renault 5-based ?

Not R5-based, but it does use some Renault parts.

[oko94]

Looks like someone chopped a Lotus 7 and glued the bits back together in the wrong order. Is it based on a Caterham ?

[Djetset]

Looks like someone chopped a Lotus 7 and glued the bits back together in the wrong order. Is it based on a Caterham ?

Not Caterham based.

[D-type]

Irish?

[Djetset]

Irish?

Not Irish.

[Djetset]

Next stop = BH

[oko94]

Home-made or built by a company ?

[Djetset]

Home-made or built by a company ?

Home-made.

[Djetset]

Another photo of this long-forgotten puzzle, taken from a different angle, which might just help to identify it. Good luck...

[pnegyesi]

French?

[Djetset]

French?

Some of the key components are French, but the car isn't.

[Oguerrerob]

If the two pictures are of the same car, this guy did some changes. The air intake, the headlights the turn lights, the seats, the rims, the windshield shape, the color of the mud guards, the rear wheels gap with the body, added a cabin tubular safety cage.

[el_monty]

They don't look like the same car to me at all. The second seems larger, wider.

[Oguerrerob]

Esmond Foster's Renaudi

[Oguerrerob]

Another view

[gte4289]

Esmond Foster's Renaudi

Since it doesn't look like Djetset will be back anytime soon, I've awarded two points to Oguerrerob and moved the puzzle to Solved.

[fromwien]

They don't look like the same car to me at all. The second seems larger, wider.

In my mind, only the identity of one of the two cars, or possibly one of two versions of it, is solved

[gte4289]

In my mind, only the identity of one of the two cars, or possibly one of two versions of it, is solved

I sincerely respect that. However, after careful consideration, I'm prepared to call this one 'solved' and reward the points. Factors considered include:

• The puzzle creator (who knew the identity of the puzzle vehicle) provided images of both versions and identified them as the same car;
• Unique components carried over from the earlier iteration to the later one (identically sized and shaped trapezoidal 'doorlets,' for example);
• This fitting description: "It has been through a process of constant evolution, the initial buggy-esque styling making way for the current aluminum-and-GRP historic racer look."

One could construct arguments to dispute each of these factors, of course. But when making the call on another member's puzzle (in the absence of strong evidence to the contrary), I think it's best to defer to the information provided by that member. And in this case, I believe that a preponderance of the available evidence indicates that these images more likely than not (a common civil law standard ) represent an evolution of the same car.

[Oguerrerob]

Thank you!!