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Re: Wendax 3864
« Reply #100 on: July 25, 2022, 11:54:54 AM »
Neither nor, produced in a small series

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Re: Wendax 3864
« Reply #101 on: July 25, 2022, 12:42:51 PM »
Does 'small series' describe our hero or it's American father?
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Re: Wendax 3864
« Reply #102 on: July 25, 2022, 01:02:27 PM »
Siemens-Schuckert?

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Re: Wendax 3864
« Reply #103 on: July 25, 2022, 01:31:49 PM »
Does 'small series' describe our hero or it's American father?
Both

Siemens-Schuckert?
No

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Re: Wendax 3864
« Reply #104 on: July 25, 2022, 01:35:49 PM »
Does that engine have an uncommon design in some way like, for example, air cooling?
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Re: Wendax 3864
« Reply #105 on: July 25, 2022, 01:39:04 PM »
Yes, but not air cooling

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Re: Wendax 3864
« Reply #106 on: July 25, 2022, 01:44:45 PM »
Two stroke?
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Re: Wendax 3864
« Reply #107 on: July 25, 2022, 01:46:56 PM »
Is that a slide-out engine design as pioneered by Dwight Austin for his Pickwick buses?

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Re: Wendax 3864
« Reply #108 on: July 25, 2022, 01:59:41 PM »
Two stroke?
Yes, in a general sense

Is that a slide-out engine design as pioneered by Dwight Austin for his Pickwick buses?
No

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Re: Wendax 3864
« Reply #109 on: July 25, 2022, 02:04:01 PM »
Two stroke in general sense can easily point to a steam engine. Is that it?
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Re: Wendax 3864
« Reply #110 on: July 25, 2022, 02:14:48 PM »
Thanks, BattleporQ!  Henschel with Doble-designed engine?

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Re: Wendax 3864
« Reply #111 on: July 25, 2022, 03:34:21 PM »
Two stroke in general sense can easily point to a steam engine. Is that it?
Yes, but bad luck, because marmer was faster:

Thanks, BattleporQ!  Henschel with Doble-designed engine?
Yes, locked for you to add the coachbuilder.

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Re: Wendax 3864
« Reply #112 on: July 25, 2022, 04:25:14 PM »
Lindner-Halbstahl?

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Re: Wendax 3864
« Reply #113 on: July 25, 2022, 04:31:13 PM »
Not a problem at all.
Good luck to marmer.
I've never heard about Doble in Germany. Another point to my knowledge)
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Re: Wendax 3864
« Reply #114 on: July 26, 2022, 01:07:12 AM »

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Re: Wendax 3864
« Reply #115 on: July 26, 2022, 09:26:04 AM »
Weymann?

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Re: Wendax 3864
« Reply #116 on: July 26, 2022, 11:01:07 AM »
Almost, one letter is wrong. Still locked.

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Re: Wendax 3864
« Reply #117 on: July 26, 2022, 11:56:10 AM »
Wegmann.  Duh.  Is that it?

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Re: Wendax 3864
« Reply #118 on: July 26, 2022, 12:22:13 PM »
Yes, one more point for you.

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Re: Solved: Wendax 3864 - Henschel steam bus by Wegmann
« Reply #119 on: July 26, 2022, 04:14:11 PM »
Thanks for a brilliant puzzle.
A lot of further research for me.
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Re: Solved: Wendax 3864 - Henschel steam bus by Wegmann
« Reply #120 on: July 27, 2022, 01:59:02 PM »
GGrrrrrrr! I have several books on my shelf with pictures and detailed descriptions of Henschel steam commercial vehicles. But unfortunately the penny didn't drop.  :ranton: Sometimes you can't see the wood for the trees.  :doh: Here some additional informations:
As a manufacturer of locomotives, Henschel had a great deal of experience with steam engines, but only with coal firing. For road vehicles, however, liquid fuels were in demand. For the sake of simplicity, a licence was obtained from Doble Steam Motor (USA), using liquid fuels (petrol or diesel). However, Doble only built drives for passenger cars; these had to be optimised for commercial vehicles (Using tar oil, larger heating surface, automatic feed of fuel and water, Reduction of water consumption). To assist with the modifications, the Doble brothers visited Henschel in Kassel several times. Several trucks (including 10 for the railway) and six buses were built. The first three buses (e.g. for Wuppertal and Dresden, see photo) had a bonnet. They were preferably used on mountain tracks and proved themselves excellently there (high starting torque, no clutch wear, good heating). There were also three front steerers with the boiler system at the rear and with a condenser fitted at the front. Two for Bielefeld and Kassel with the body of the puzzle bus and one for Bremen (see photo). Due to the naval build-up, the demand for tar-oil rose rapidly, and so did the price. Commercial vehicles with steam engines were no longer profitable. The Bremen bus was therefore given a diesel engine, and in 1943 it was converted to city gas. The Bielfeld bus was equipped with a Deutz diesel engine as late as 1950.
« Last Edit: July 27, 2022, 02:03:35 PM by sichel »
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: Solved: Wendax 3864 - Henschel steam bus by Wegmann
« Reply #121 on: July 27, 2022, 02:10:48 PM »
Thanks for the additional information. We've had the Bremen and the Wuppertal buses before: https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2015-44/solved-pn-775-henschel-steam-bus-1933/msg374826/#msg374826