Author Topic: La Joyeuse 1908 racing voiturette (Read 1176 times)

grobmotorix · « **on:** March 08, 2015, 11:41:56 AM »

Who knows this vintage race car?

grobmotorix · « **Reply #1 on:** March 20, 2015, 03:14:45 PM »

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magnette · « **Reply #2 on:** March 25, 2015, 03:08:14 PM »

I saw a similar picture of this exact car in Geogarno's Motoring Camera 1894-1916 - it was an entrant in the 1908 Grand Prix des Voiturettes and is described as 'Menard's La Joyeuse"

grobmotorix · « **Reply #3 on:** March 25, 2015, 03:49:31 PM »

And this is exactly the car!

Your point...

ropat53 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 25, 2015, 04:21:03 PM »

According to some sources this car is a Vulpès, #22 at the 1908 Grand Prix de Voiturettes?

grobmotorix · « **Reply #5 on:** March 25, 2015, 04:27:46 PM »

If the driver of the Vulpes was Philippe Barriaux, he is not sitting in this car.

He had a very distinctive face.

So I do not think this is a Vulpes.

But I will accept any proof of course...

ropat53 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 25, 2015, 05:51:51 PM »

I have found two different sites that list all the participants of the 1908 Grand Prix and according to them

#22 Vulpès, no name of the driver.
#20 Ménard in La Joyeuse
# 5 Barriaux in Alcyon

Of course there's the French site where the puzzle picture is said to be Ménard in La Joyeuse and we also have Gergano.

Wendax · « **Reply #7 on:** March 25, 2015, 06:02:58 PM »

#5 is obviously Barriaux:

grobmotorix · « **Reply #8 on:** March 25, 2015, 06:13:27 PM »

Then my source seems to be wrong...

What do the other think?

Wendax · « **Reply #9 on:** March 25, 2015, 06:28:54 PM »

I don't know who is wrong. We had the 1907 Vulpès (with Barriaux) before and it doesn't look like this 1908 puzzle car at all: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=19374

grobmotorix · « **Reply #10 on:** March 25, 2015, 06:34:46 PM »

I do not know any Vulpes that has a sleek front end like that of my puzzle car - that is my problem...

Wendax · « **Reply #11 on:** April 27, 2022, 01:42:49 AM »

Another old racer.

For one point, please respond and identify this car.

Wendax · « **Reply #12 on:** May 04, 2022, 11:57:59 AM »

FrontMan · « **Reply #13 on:** May 04, 2022, 02:05:58 PM »

A La Joyeuse, driven by P. Ménard 6th. July, 1908 at the Coupe des Voiturettes, Dieppe. Race number: 22. This was a Parisienne make founded in 1907, but seems not to have survived beyond 1908. So far, I have not found any more activity by M. Ménard, so perhaps he was the constructor/designer.

Wendax · « **Reply #14 on:** May 04, 2022, 03:23:04 PM »

Now I see that it is a repost, because my 1908 gives a different name, the company rather than the brand. Locked for you to find it.

FrontMan · « **Reply #15 on:** May 04, 2022, 04:56:44 PM »

Awkward. I've seen this photo captioned as a Le Gui, or a Vulpès. My feeling is that the Gallica (Agence Rol) source may be correct in calling it a La Joyeuse, but I have not seen any other picture of that marque to match it with.

Wendax · « **Reply #16 on:** May 05, 2022, 01:06:16 AM »

You are right that the car is a La Joyeuse. I just want the company's name XXXXX, because my 1908 source calls it a XXXXX and in one of my books the manufacturer is listed as "XXXXX (XXXXX-la-Joyeuse)". Still locked for you.

FrontMan · « **Reply #17 on:** May 05, 2022, 09:04:29 AM »

I have it as "Voitures Légères Taine". This make was also raced a little later in the season, by Thomas Schweitzer. Perhaps he was the riding mechanic pictured here?

Wendax · « **Reply #18 on:** May 05, 2022, 09:09:12 AM »

Taine is the name I was looking for.

Wendax · « **Reply #19 on:** May 05, 2022, 09:10:56 AM »

Merged

FrontMan · « **Reply #20 on:** May 05, 2022, 01:04:23 PM »

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Author Topic: La Joyeuse 1908 racing voiturette (Read 1176 times)