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Re: FW #286
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2022, 03:35:34 AM »
B 1000 Z by Drettmann
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Re: FW #286
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2022, 04:37:44 AM »
Borgward 1000 .. (two letters behind 1000), not Drettmann
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Re: FW #286
« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2022, 05:21:32 AM »
Post-war?
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: FW #286
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2022, 06:09:38 AM »
Yes
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Re: FW #286
« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2022, 06:18:47 AM »
Quote from: sichel on May 15, 2022, 03:35:34 AM
B 1000 Z by Drettmann
Checking my source once again, I think, the correct designation should be:
Borgward Typ .. (two letters) on Borgward B1000 chassis
Coachbuilder?
Early post-war-period
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Re: FW #286
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2022, 07:16:03 AM »
That would suggest that it is a Borgward made body on the B1000. Either that, or the two letter code refers to the coachbuilder's own designation. Is the coachbuilder from the Bremen area? :)
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Re: FW #286
« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2022, 07:45:16 AM »
No, not Bremen area  ;)
It is a Borgward type in the Borgward-range with bodywork manufactured at a coachbuilder
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Re: FW #286
« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2022, 07:59:07 AM »
Built by Hall, Köln?
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: FW #286
« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2022, 08:02:18 AM »
Yes! perfect found! LOCKED for you to find the remaining two letters for the model-designation
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Re: FW #286
« Reply #34 on: May 15, 2022, 08:09:44 AM »
Since it is an "woodie": ZW or WZ?
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Re: FW #286
« Reply #35 on: May 15, 2022, 08:38:29 AM »
Not 'W', but 'Z' is one of the two letters
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Re: FW #286
« Reply #36 on: May 15, 2022, 04:21:49 PM »
To avoid misunderstandings, the designation comes from Borgward or from Hall?
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Re: FW #286
« Reply #37 on: May 15, 2022, 04:52:25 PM »
It is a Borgward .. (2 letters, one of them is 'Z'), built on B 1000-chassis by Hall, Köln
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Re: FW #286
« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2022, 05:01:57 PM »
ZZ: "Zwei Zwillinge"
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Re: FW #286
« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2022, 03:54:47 AM »
No, but you are thinking in the right direction, ..
Think about the wide spread utility of the car
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Re: FW #286
« Reply #40 on: May 16, 2022, 12:00:00 PM »
OZ?
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Re: FW #286
« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2022, 12:37:56 PM »
No, but 'Z' is on the right position
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Re: FW #286
« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2022, 01:18:49 PM »
PZ?
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Re: FW #286
« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2022, 04:10:01 PM »
the right letter is some positions earlier in the alphabet
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Re: FW #286
« Reply #44 on: May 17, 2022, 11:12:59 AM »
MZ
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Re: FW #286
« Reply #45 on: May 17, 2022, 11:36:30 AM »
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: The point is yours (MZ = Mehrzweck?)
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Re: SOLVED: FW #286: Borgward MZ, body by Hall/Köln on B1000 chassis
« Reply #46 on: May 17, 2022, 01:45:59 PM »
Thank's for the point.
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke
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