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Re: Wendax 351
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2011, 07:21:43 AM »
No

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Re: Wendax 351
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2011, 02:09:37 PM »
FAKA ?

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Re: Wendax 351
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2011, 02:22:27 PM »
No

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Re: Wendax 351
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2011, 03:22:33 PM »
Gastell ?

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Re: Wendax 351
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2011, 03:32:18 PM »
 :shakehead:

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Re: Wendax 351
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2011, 05:28:06 PM »
Is it the same model as the KOM 84 from 1952 of the Erfurter Verkehrs Betriebe shown by Drehscheibe?
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Re: Wendax 351
« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2011, 03:23:44 PM »
Is it the same model as the KOM 84 from 1952 of the Erfurter Verkehrs Betriebe shown by Drehscheibe?
There is a certain similarity, but the puzzle bus has nothing to do with Erfurt.

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Re: Wendax 351
« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2011, 03:59:05 PM »
Oh boy ! Trutz ?

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Re: Wendax 351
« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2011, 02:49:43 PM »
No

(I think this puzzle will last for a while....)

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Re: Wendax 351
« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2011, 07:43:49 PM »
No

(I think this puzzle will last for a while....)

I feel this also, as I don't know which coachbuilder it can be.  Maybe the Pros know better ?

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Re: Wendax 351
« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2011, 04:30:17 AM »
I am not satisfied  :yuck:
i found the photo bus on the net ; but the name is too small !

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Re: Wendax 351
« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2011, 09:21:56 AM »
How did you find that picture? Google Search by Image?
If so, I'm not satisfied either.  :yuck:
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Re: Wendax 351
« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2011, 10:04:59 AM »
No  :noid:

In the same book on ebay
than the Mercedes Wickenbrock (JPG#172 ) !
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Re: Wendax 351
« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2011, 10:09:17 AM »
That's fine.  ;D
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Re: Wendax 351
« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2011, 03:13:29 AM »
Will the Pros know?

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Re: Wendax 351
« Reply #40 on: October 14, 2011, 05:59:03 PM »
Ottenbacher / Biberach?

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Re: Wendax 351
« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2011, 06:04:57 PM »
Oh, it might also be a Ludewig body...

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Re: Wendax 351
« Reply #42 on: October 15, 2011, 02:21:00 PM »

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Re: Wendax 351
« Reply #43 on: October 15, 2011, 02:22:07 PM »
Oh, it might also be a Ludewig body...
Not by such a well known coachbuilder

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Re: Wendax 351
« Reply #44 on: October 29, 2011, 04:18:24 PM »
If you follow the hint SACO gave, perhaps you may be able to recognize the coachbuilder's name. It isn't impossible.

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Re: Wendax 351
« Reply #45 on: October 29, 2011, 06:51:46 PM »
The name "Heideperle" shown on the original pic could indicate that it's built near the Lüneburger Heide. I vaguely can spot a coachworking company starting with a "W" and maybe 5 or 6 characters.
I found a still existing truck coachbuilder called "Wille", resident in Lüneburg which is in business since 1895.
Not that likely, but could it be them?

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Re: Wendax 351
« Reply #46 on: October 30, 2011, 04:49:07 AM »
Very well spotted. It is Wille. But after my generous hint there has to be a little challenge. I'll give you the point if you can tell me where they were located when they built this bus. Locked for you.

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Re: Wendax 351
« Reply #47 on: October 30, 2011, 05:24:47 AM »
I was able to identify something like "Hamburg" or "Harburg" and after googling "Karosseriewerk Wille" AND "Hamburg" I've found the words I could not read: "Fleestedt" and "über".
So, Wille was located at Fleestedt über Hamburg according to Omnibusarchiv, but "Fleestadt bei Hamburg" seems to be more correct.
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Re: Wendax 351
« Reply #48 on: October 30, 2011, 10:47:57 AM »
Fleestedt is correct. Fleestedt is now a part of Seevetal. The Wille factory existed there until a few years ago, when it was demolished to make place for some family homes. All that is left there is the old office building and a new street called "Stellmacherei" (Wheelwright workshop). From time to time one could see some interesting cars there like a Volkswagen Corrado convertible or a Bitter Type 3, since sometimes they were involved in prototype coachbuilding. "Fleestedt über Hamburg" is an old expression for the fact that mail heading for Fleestedt had to go to the Hamburg post office first.
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Solved: PN #1277 -- Mercedes-Benz O5000 by Wille, 1950
« Reply #49 on: August 25, 2019, 04:40:53 AM »
Please identify brand, model, coachbuilder and year for a point
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