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Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #150 on: June 16, 2019, 02:47:46 PM »
I've a solution for C-4-t but the step 4 isn't too clear:
C = Georges Irat OLC3 with Labourdette body after WWII
4 = Flaminio Bertoni's grave, Flaminio Bertoni was the designer of the Citröen 11 and the Georges Irat OLC3
      had the motor and drive system of that car
t = Georges Irat VDB (Voiture du Bled)
You are right, as Architecture 4 is not the fitting part as I had it in my mind. Anyhow, C-?-t locked for you.

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #151 on: June 16, 2019, 06:14:21 PM »
Is K-?-q still locked?
I think Pal has had his chance and I can unlock I-24-? and K-?-q. Go ahead, Robbie.

I've found the solution for K-?-q, but as ropat53 was the first to react I'll wait for his next post before giving the solution.

Thank you both very much

K: Magyar Álom (Hungarian Dream)
17: Camille Walala Dream come true
q: UAZ by HICOX
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Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #152 on: June 17, 2019, 02:28:05 AM »
Yes, a building in London.

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #153 on: June 17, 2019, 04:06:13 AM »
There are only two buildings left (13 & 15) that lead me to the solution of the puzzle, but I do not see any relationship with Georges Irat. Does the connection refer to the location or the name of the building?
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Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #154 on: June 17, 2019, 04:24:03 AM »
There are only two buildings left (13 & 15) that lead me to the solution of the puzzle, but I do not see any relationship with Georges Irat. Does the connection refer to the location or the name of the building?
No, but one of these buildings has a relationship to Georges Irat.

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #155 on: June 17, 2019, 05:19:47 AM »
13 is "La Sapiniere" where Georges Irat rented a part of the building as his first family home, was at  2 Avenue Corot in Le Vesinet , which is a town near Chatou, place of the first factory of Georges Irat.
So the correct puzzle solution is C-13-t

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #156 on: June 17, 2019, 05:28:20 AM »
13 is "La Sapiniere" where Georges Irat rented a part of the building as his first family home, was at  2 Avenue Corot in Le Vesinet , which is a town near Chatou, place of the first factory of Georges Irat.
So the correct puzzle solution is C-13-t
Well found! This leaves two cars unidentified.

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #157 on: June 17, 2019, 11:47:30 AM »
I'm not certain about this one, as I haven't managed to identify the car element, so it's a sort of reverse-engineering job.

I think the combination is E-15-z. Working backwards, Extra z is a 1920s Jowett, and with that and the name on the side of the bonnet, it's possible to identify the man sitting in it as Robert Ellison. He would go on to drive a Jowett Jupiter in the 1952 Monte Carlo Rally - not successfully, as it happens, as he crashed during the event. The car he drove was a coupe with bodywork by J E Farr & Sons of Blackburn, Lancashire.

This seems to be relevant, as Architecture 15 is called the Farr Building in Allentown, Pennsylvania, once a shoe factory and retail outlet, but now mostly up-market apartments.

But the car is the problem. I'm guessing it's E, and bodied by Farr, but I haven't been able to prove it. It's not Ellison's Monte Carlo car, which was restored, and still exists. Is it another Farr-bodied Jupiter? One did come up for sale recently, in need of restoration, but the listing no longer has any pictures. Or am I barking up the proverbial wrong one?

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #158 on: June 17, 2019, 12:52:31 PM »
I'm not certain about this one, as I haven't managed to identify the car element, so it's a sort of reverse-engineering job.

I think the combination is E-15-z. Working backwards, Extra z is a 1920s Jowett, and with that and the name on the side of the bonnet, it's possible to identify the man sitting in it as Robert Ellison. He would go on to drive a Jowett Jupiter in the 1952 Monte Carlo Rally - not successfully, as it happens, as he crashed during the event. The car he drove was a coupe with bodywork by J E Farr & Sons of Blackburn, Lancashire.

This seems to be relevant, as Architecture 15 is called the Farr Building in Allentown, Pennsylvania, once a shoe factory and retail outlet, but now mostly up-market apartments.

But the car is the problem. I'm guessing it's E, and bodied by Farr, but I haven't been able to prove it. It's not Ellison's Monte Carlo car, which was restored, and still exists. Is it another Farr-bodied Jupiter? One did come up for sale recently, in need of restoration, but the listing no longer has any pictures. Or am I barking up the proverbial wrong one?
No, you are right on all accounts. Another one solved.

Now that only one unidentified car, an identified piece of architecture and two unknown extras are left, I will grant no more locks until this puzzle is solved. Last orders, please!
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Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #159 on: June 17, 2019, 04:13:29 PM »
Was the body of Car V built in Antony ?

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #160 on: June 17, 2019, 04:50:27 PM »
Not all of them

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #161 on: June 17, 2019, 09:49:46 PM »
I'll give it a try, not sure about x
V: Atla-Panhard made in Antony
4: Flaminio Bertoni's tomb in Antony
x: Atlas coal mine

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #162 on: June 18, 2019, 02:30:11 AM »
I'll give it a try, not sure about x
V: Atla-Panhard made in Antony
4: Flaminio Bertoni's tomb in Antony
x: Atlas coal mine
You are right about Car V and Architecture 4, as well as their connection. x is not the missing part, so it has to be the other one. But tell me why.
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Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #163 on: June 18, 2019, 04:37:05 AM »
V-4-w

Extra W : Vega toy car by Jacques Durand of Atla / Sera fame.

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #164 on: June 18, 2019, 04:55:11 AM »
V-4-w

Extra W : Vega toy car by Jacques Durand of Atla / Sera fame.
Yes, this leaves just Extra x (like unknown  :)) to be identified and tied to I-24. Who will be the first?

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #165 on: June 18, 2019, 01:30:00 PM »
Is x Fata mine in Romania?

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #166 on: June 18, 2019, 05:34:25 PM »
No

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #167 on: June 18, 2019, 09:56:51 PM »
I found it
I: F.A.T.A. Aurea - Societa Italiana Ferrotaie (Turin 1920-1922)
24:Domus Aurea
X: Ferrotaie. Società Italiana per materiali siderurgici e ferroviari

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Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #168 on: June 19, 2019, 02:29:07 AM »
Well found, Ferrotaie was the company behind the Aurea car.


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Re: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #169 on: June 19, 2019, 02:35:06 AM »
That finishes up this puzzle. It was fun to build and fun to see you struggle.  ;D
And it won't be the last one of its kind.

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Re: Solved: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #170 on: June 19, 2019, 10:30:32 AM »
Thank you Wendax, it's been great fun, very frustrating at times, but enjoyed every moment. Looking forward to more.

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Re: Solved: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #171 on: June 19, 2019, 10:43:50 AM »
Thank you, I am glad you enjoyed it.

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Re: Solved: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #172 on: June 19, 2019, 02:04:39 PM »
Unfortunately I did not have much time for this, though it was great, great fun
https://rareandunique.media - Rare&Unique Vehicles magazine
http://magyarjarmu.hu - detailed Hungarian motoring history (Hungarian language)
http://automuseums.info - motoring museums' guide

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Re: Solved: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #173 on: June 19, 2019, 03:31:05 PM »
Yes, another superb puzzle - thank you.

Just one thing (as Columbo used to say). Do you have any other pictures of the Farr-bodied Jowett Jupiter (Car E)? I couldn't find any apart from one old photo of the front. I'm assuming it's the car registered FRJ 351.

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Re: Solved: Rust never sleeps - Carchitextra
« Reply #174 on: June 19, 2019, 03:51:43 PM »
Great work Wendax, that was a fun group puzzle !