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Solved NIC#1022 - Old Gray Mare of John Reuter
« on: December 26, 2018, 04:18:57 AM »
What is the name of this car, and who built it?
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Re: NIC#1022
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2019, 06:09:52 AM »
Experts?
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Re: NIC#1022
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2019, 05:48:57 PM »
That's not Indianapolis is it?
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Re: NIC#1022
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2019, 06:07:15 PM »
Are we in the 1930s?
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Re: NIC#1022
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2019, 05:48:29 AM »
It's not Indianapolis, and the precise date the car was built is not known to me, but would probably be in the mid-1930s.
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Re: NIC#1022
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2019, 05:50:05 PM »
It looks like a Miller with a nose job. Is it a modified car or a completely new car?
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Re: NIC#1022
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2019, 04:06:25 AM »
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It looks like a Miller with a nose job. Is it a modified car or a completely new car?

It's a one-off built from parts which, at the time, were not new.
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Re: NIC#1022
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2019, 03:46:58 PM »
This one is proving difficult to find. Would knowing the engine help? Is it an Offenhauser? Is any part of it from a Miller?
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Re: NIC#1022
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2019, 05:18:03 PM »
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This one is proving difficult to find. Would knowing the engine help? Is it an Offenhauser? Is any part of it from a Miller?

It would help if you knew the engine, but of course you'll have to work it out! No Miller or Offy connection.
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Re: NIC#1022
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2019, 05:41:36 PM »
Is the engine from one of the big manufacturers? Hudson?
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Re: NIC#1022
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2019, 05:05:06 AM »
Quote from: tobytwirl on January 15, 2019, 05:41:36 PM
Is the engine from one of the big manufacturers? Hudson?

Yes, but not Hudson.
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Re: NIC#1022
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2019, 03:54:01 PM »
Studebaker?
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Re: NIC#1022
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2019, 04:01:50 PM »
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Re: NIC#1022
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2019, 04:55:54 PM »
Chevrolet ?
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Re: NIC#1022
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2019, 05:29:39 PM »
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Re: NIC#1022
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2019, 06:49:33 PM »
Ford?
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Re: NIC#1022
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2019, 03:56:15 AM »
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Ford?

Yes. It's the ubiquitous flathead.
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Re: NIC#1022
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2019, 06:34:21 AM »
It is American isn't it?
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Re: NIC#1022
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2019, 07:10:21 AM »
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Re: NIC#1022
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2019, 12:59:19 PM »
Do we know the circuit? Would it help?
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Re: NIC#1022
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2019, 01:06:37 PM »
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Do we know the circuit? Would it help?

I do know the circuit but I doubt it would help. It wasn't a permanent track. The photo was taken in the USA.
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Re: NIC#1022
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2019, 02:33:11 PM »
I have found several photos and extensive video footage of this car in action, but I don't have a name for it yet other than "Ford V8 Special." It appears to have been driven by Lemuel Ladd in at least one event; but was he also the builder?
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Re: NIC#1022
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2019, 02:58:43 PM »
Found it: "Old Grey Mare" shown at the 1937 Alexandria Bay Road Race (as driven by Lemuel Ladd).
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Re: NIC#1022
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2019, 03:13:15 PM »
You've found it! Quite a well-known car in its day, and later images show it had a different appearance, but this is the car as first built.

However Ladd didn't build the car. LOCKED for gte4289 to finish the puzzle.
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Re: NIC#1022
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2019, 03:14:16 PM »
Quote from: nicanary on January 18, 2019, 03:13:15 PM
You've found it! Quite a well-known car in its day, and later images show it had a different appearance, but this is the car as first built.

However Ladd didn't build the car. LOCKED for gte4289 to finish the puzzle.
It was originally raced by John C. Reuter in 1935, so it seems Reuter may have actually been the builder?

Also, in addition to the "Old Grey Mare," it has also been known as "Old Glory" and more recently as the "1935 Ford Reuter V8 Special."
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