Author Topic: SOLVED: Djetset 965 - Alvis TE-TF ‘Eleganza’ by Trevor Fiore  (Read 1016 times)

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Gain a point by naming the designer, plus the make and model name of this proposed car (and sorry for the fuzzy image).
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Re: Djetset 965
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2019, 02:34:08 PM »
Up to the Experts...
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Re: Djetset 965
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2019, 02:44:47 PM »
It looks for all the world like a Lancia Flavia coupe, so that means it can't be one..
Is it related, i.e. a sketch for one of the Agnelli Ferrari Superamericas or Maserati 5000 GT by their designer Brovarone?
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Re: Djetset 965
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2019, 02:48:19 PM »
It looks for all the world like a Lancia Flavia coupe, so that means it can't be one..
Is it related, i.e. a sketch for one of the Agnelli Ferrari Superamericas or Maserati 5000 GT by their designer Brovarone?
Yes, it does resemble a Pininfarina-bodied Lancia Flavia Coupe, but it's not that, and it's not related to a Brovarone Ferrari or Maserati.
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Re: Djetset 965
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2019, 03:11:26 PM »
American ?

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Re: Djetset 965
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2019, 03:18:54 PM »
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Re: Djetset 965
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2019, 04:38:57 PM »
Thought not..!
It's a bit of an understatment to say it resembles the Flavia coupe though.. I'd say someone somewhere is guilty of plagiarism!
The style of rendering actually looks rather like Fiore's, bult I thought it was a bit too early a style for him.
I'll ask the question though. Anything to do with Fiore?  A Jaguar design by him perhaps?
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Re: Djetset 965
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2019, 04:44:38 PM »
.....but it seems to have a Gregoire grille!

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Re: Djetset 965
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2019, 05:16:43 PM »
Thought not..!
It's a bit of an understatment to say it resembles the Flavia coupe though.. I'd say someone somewhere is guilty of plagiarism!
The style of rendering actually looks rather like Fiore's, bult I thought it was a bit too early a style for him.
I'll ask the question though. Anything to do with Fiore?  A Jaguar design by him perhaps?
Yes, it is a Trevor Fiore sketch (I thought his style might be too easy to spot!), but it's not a Jaguar design proposal, so now Locked to you to discover the planned make and model of this rendering.
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Re: Djetset 965
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2019, 05:17:28 PM »
.....but it seems to have a Gregoire grille!
No, not a Gregoire grille, although I can see what you mean.
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Re: Djetset 965
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2019, 03:37:24 AM »
Thanks for the lock.
It's LHD; does that mean it's a non-British marque?
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Re: Djetset 965
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2019, 04:21:39 AM »
Thanks for the lock.
It's LHD; does that mean it's a non-British marque?
No, it's a proposal for a British marque. The Lock remains.
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Re: Djetset 965
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2019, 05:18:05 AM »
Thanks.
About 12 years ago a number of Fiore drawings were auctioned by H&H.  I was there but didn't manage to buy what I went for (his TVR Trident drawings); I did get a Lancia drawing though.  I believe this was one of the drawings!  I did save them all on my computer at the time (they were all available on-line) but that was my work computer and now that I'm retired I don't have them any more and they're no longer available on-line...

However, I believe this one was an Alvis design?
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Re: Djetset 965
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2019, 06:58:53 AM »
This is an Alvis design by Fiore, so you're pretty well there. For one last Lock though, do you know which Alvis model this was proposed to be?
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Re: Djetset 965
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2019, 09:19:35 AM »
It seems this was a design for a car to be called Alvis Eleganza, though I don't know whose name that was - Alvis's or Fiore's!

Here are a few more pictures of his designs, including the unmodified front view, the rear and side views (the latter two actually for slightly different designs from the puzzle front view):

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Re: Djetset 965
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2019, 09:34:57 AM »
Well done, Eleganza was the name I was looking for, with this Fiore proposal also being referred to simply as the Alvis TE and TF as well, which I guess this was possibly a proposal to replace the existing Graber-styled models.

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Re: SOLVED: Djetset 965 - Alvis TE-TF ‘Eleganza’ by Trevor Fiore
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2019, 12:30:19 PM »
Congratulations to Carnut! Need to mark. :)

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Re: SOLVED: Djetset 965 - Alvis TE-TF ‘Eleganza’ by Trevor Fiore
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2019, 12:45:09 PM »
Congratulations to Carnut! Need to mark. :)

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Re: SOLVED: Djetset 965 - Alvis TE-TF ‘Eleganza’ by Trevor Fiore
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2019, 01:05:05 PM »
Congratulations !

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Re: SOLVED: Djetset 965 - Alvis TE-TF ‘Eleganza’ by Trevor Fiore
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2019, 01:36:06 PM »
Well done! I know you enjoy finding new puzzles to post, and that's what'll take up all your time now. Trying to solve Pros stuff is erm.....challenging.
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Re: SOLVED: Djetset 965 - Alvis TE-TF ‘Eleganza’ by Trevor Fiore
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2019, 02:13:27 PM »
Quite; I've been a Pro before of course, in the days when you became a Pro once you had 200 pts.  I know how difficult life is at that level.
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