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Barrett's #214 - Solved - Tom Nelson's Daimler-Ford Special, 1935
« on: September 26, 2011, 10:52:32 AM »
Sorry for the bad image. For a point please tell me what this car is and what it was based on.

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Re: Barrett's #214
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2011, 12:17:51 PM »
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Re: Barrett's #214
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2011, 12:58:59 PM »
Pros?

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Re: Barrett's #214
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2011, 01:02:27 PM »
Based on a 1930s British chassis?

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Re: Barrett's #214
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2011, 03:06:27 PM »
There are bits if a British chassis in there, yes!

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Re: Barrett's #214
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2011, 03:14:09 PM »
I've misplaced this in my archives so only have a little bit of info to work with at the moment, but I just checked that and it seems most of the parts, including the chassis, date back a little further than the 1930s. The car was only built in 1935.

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Re: Barrett's #214
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2011, 11:50:26 AM »
Presuming this is a one-off, is the engine European?

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Re: Barrett's #214
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2011, 04:08:15 PM »
yes indeed

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Re: Barrett's #214
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2011, 06:58:41 AM »
I'm still trying to pin this one down.
Just to recap - it was completed in 1935 using pre-1930 parts including a partly British chassis and a European engine.
However what I need to establish is the car's nationality - presumably European but not British?

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Re: Barrett's #214
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2011, 08:28:26 AM »
I have to apologise for this one (I've just managed to find it again after an hour of looking..). It seems it actually has an America power plant! All other parts as far as I know are British and it was assembled in the UK.

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Re: Barrett's #214
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2011, 10:20:15 AM »
Looks rather like a Brough Superior in which case it would be Hudson Terraplane underneath, possibly with a body by Kevill-Davies & March who were also London distributors for BS.
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Re: Barrett's #214
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2011, 10:45:03 AM »
Is it anything to do with the Godsal, an Anglo-American hybrid built in 1935?

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Re: Barrett's #214
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2011, 11:53:07 AM »
Neither of those I'm afraid, and the engine is from a much more popular make than Hudson

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Re: Barrett's #214
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2011, 12:31:26 PM »
American Ford engine?

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Re: Barrett's #214
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2011, 12:32:43 PM »

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Re: Barrett's #214
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2011, 01:38:19 PM »
It just could be a Jensen although they normally had less spartan bodies than this.
Did have Ford motors though . . .
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Re: Barrett's #214
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2011, 01:53:39 PM »
It just could be a Jensen although they normally had less spartan bodies than this.
Did have Ford motors though . . .

No, this is a one off special named after it's owner. The Engine is Ford, the chassis is from a British make and the body was built by a well known (-ish) coachbuilder

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Re: Barrett's #214
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2011, 04:04:17 AM »
A bit of a wild guess but is it the F.M. designed by Mr. Fensum for Sebag Montefiore in 1935?
It used an Invicta chassis, was originally fitted with a Lagonda engine that was later replaced by a Ford V8.

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Re: Barrett's #214
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2011, 08:19:26 AM »
It's not that but it certainly fits the answer!

The chassis isn't from an Invicta, but a better known British make

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Re: Barrett's #214
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2011, 08:32:13 AM »
Batten V8?

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Re: Barrett's #214
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2011, 09:10:40 AM »
Not that!

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Re: Barrett's #214
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2011, 10:43:17 AM »
Presumably nothing to do with Leidart?

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Re: Barrett's #214
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2011, 12:58:10 PM »
Not that either

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Re: Barrett's #214
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2011, 01:31:10 PM »
I don't have any other suggestions at the moment but I'll continue searching....... :)

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Re: Barrett's #214
« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2011, 03:22:31 PM »
I'll be more forthcoming with the clues if it doesn't get any more attention soon  ;)