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Solved: Wendax 2731 - Defrance Série III
« on: November 12, 2018, 02:12:01 AM »
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Re: Wendax 2731
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2018, 02:19:13 AM »
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Re: Wendax 2731
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2018, 04:16:54 AM »

 French

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Re: Wendax 2731
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2018, 04:24:21 AM »
Yes

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Re: Wendax 2731
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2018, 07:10:02 AM »
Senechal?

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Re: Wendax 2731
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2018, 08:43:48 AM »
No

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Re: Wendax 2731
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2018, 01:46:37 PM »

 SCAP

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Re: Wendax 2731
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2018, 05:08:48 PM »
No

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Re: Wendax 2731
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2018, 01:51:44 PM »
AMILCAR?

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Re: Wendax 2731
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2018, 02:11:49 PM »
Mauve

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Re: Wendax 2731
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2018, 06:18:53 PM »
Salmson

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Re: Wendax 2731
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2018, 10:43:12 AM »
3 x no

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Re: Wendax 2731
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2018, 01:34:07 AM »
Tholomé

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Re: Wendax 2731
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2018, 02:05:10 AM »
Octo?

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Re: Wendax 2731
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2018, 02:50:49 AM »
Twice no

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Re: Wendax 2731
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2018, 06:20:42 PM »
1923 Cycle-Car Defrance Serie III

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Re: Wendax 2731
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2018, 02:29:57 AM »
Yes

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Re: Solved: Wendax 2731 - Defrance Série III
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2018, 12:13:17 PM »
What is relation with Elfe - Automobiles Defrance Freres from Vierzon or Eugene MAUVE?
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Re: Solved: Wendax 2731 - Defrance Série III
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2018, 04:01:42 PM »
What is relation with Elfe - Automobiles Defrance Freres from Vierzon or Eugene MAUVE?
From what I can gather:

Ateliers Defrance Frères
Founded by Eugène Mauve circa 1919
Produced "Elfe" cyclecars
Anzani V-twin engines (703 cc or 984 cc)

Cyclecars Mauve
Founded by Eugène Mauve circa 1922
Produced "Mauve" cyclecars
Anzani 4 cylinder engines (1086 cc), later NOVA 4 cylinder engines (950 cc)

Société Nouvelle des Automobiles Defrance
Active 1922-23
Produced "Defrance" cyclecars
S.C.A.P. 4 cylinder engines (893 cc)

It seems Mauve left Ateliers Defrance Frères in 1922 to create Cyclecars Mauve. It is not clear to me whether the later Defrance was a new creation by Mauve, a new/continued effort on the part of Ateliers Defrance Frères (without Mauve), or an entirely new and unrelated venture. Based on the name and location, however, I think it is likely related to the other automakers in some way.

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Re: Solved: Wendax 2731 - Defrance Série III
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2018, 12:11:38 AM »
What is relation with Elfe - Automobiles Defrance Freres from Vierzon or Eugene MAUVE?
From what I can gather:

Ateliers Defrance Frères
Founded by Eugène Mauve circa 1919
Produced "Elfe" cyclecars
Anzani V-twin engines (703 cc or 984 cc)

Cyclecars Mauve
Founded by Eugène Mauve circa 1922
Produced "Mauve" cyclecars
Anzani 4 cylinder engines (1086 cc), later NOVA 4 cylinder engines (950 cc)

Société Nouvelle des Automobiles Defrance
Active 1922-23
Produced "Defrance" cyclecars
S.C.A.P. 4 cylinder engines (893 cc)

It seems Mauve left Ateliers Defrance Frères in 1922 to create Cyclecars Mauve. It is not clear to me whether the later Defrance was a new creation by Mauve, a new/continued effort on the part of Ateliers Defrance Frères (without Mauve), or an entirely new and unrelated venture. Based on the name and location, however, I think it is likely related to the other automakers in some way.

Thank you very much!