Author Topic: ropat#17 - Minerva but what model? half solved (Read 1443 times)

ropat53 · « **on:** April 13, 2013, 09:59:10 PM »

This is a family picture, taken in Mar del Plata - Argentina towards the end of WWI.
All I know is the marque of the car, I don't know the model, the coachbuilder or the exact year.
So for one point what's the marque and extra point for any information that can be proved.

ropat53 · « **Reply #1 on:** April 17, 2013, 08:27:45 PM »

ropat53 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 25, 2013, 10:49:10 PM »

Up for professionals

ropat53 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 22, 2013, 12:42:08 AM »

This one has been forgotten, it's a very easy pro point what marque is this car?

targhediferro · « **Reply #4 on:** June 23, 2013, 03:33:09 AM »

Brasier?

pnegyesi · « **Reply #5 on:** June 23, 2013, 03:35:30 AM »

DeDion?

ropat53 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 23, 2013, 12:09:03 PM »

Not French

pnegyesi · « **Reply #7 on:** June 23, 2013, 02:42:25 PM »

British?

ropat53 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 23, 2013, 02:51:26 PM »

No not British.

pnegyesi · « **Reply #9 on:** June 23, 2013, 03:50:09 PM »

American?

ropat53 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 23, 2013, 05:13:47 PM »

Not American, north or south

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #11 on:** June 23, 2013, 05:40:09 PM »

Italian?

ropat53 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 23, 2013, 08:13:35 PM »

No not Italian

pnegyesi · « **Reply #13 on:** June 24, 2013, 04:12:27 AM »

German?

ropat53 · « **Reply #14 on:** June 24, 2013, 10:22:31 AM »

Not German

pnegyesi · « **Reply #15 on:** June 24, 2013, 10:52:22 AM »

Belgian?

ropat53 · « **Reply #16 on:** June 24, 2013, 11:35:51 AM »

Yes la Belgique.

pnegyesi · « **Reply #17 on:** June 24, 2013, 11:37:10 AM »

Minerva?

ropat53 · « **Reply #18 on:** June 24, 2013, 11:53:10 AM »

Yes Minerva, one point for pnegyesi, but I won't move it to the solved section because I'd like help to identify the model and year.
The eldest child in the picture, my aunt, was born in 1911 and her youngest brother in 1914, which means the picture was taken during WWI. This is the only picture I have of this car.

choppertrainee · « **Reply #19 on:** June 28, 2013, 11:08:56 PM »

On the Minerva website, it shows this as a 1911 Type X Open Tourer. Here's the picture they provide:
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choppertrainee · « **Reply #20 on:** July 11, 2013, 11:03:25 PM »

What do you think?

ropat53 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 12, 2013, 10:36:58 AM »

Thank you very much for your input and please forgive me for not having answered before, I don't know how I missed it. I had seen the Minerva site, the car is circa 1911 and may be a X 26 CV, but there also was a smaller 16 CV and a larger 38 CV, I feel more inclined to believe it's the 38 CV. I'm looking for conclusive evidence that may confirm the exact model. Wikimedia Commons has an even nicer picture of the car you posted and there's a Belgian site with information about all Minerva models.
Pictured below is a 1911 38 CV

choppertrainee · « **Reply #22 on:** July 12, 2013, 01:23:11 PM »

Why do you believe it's the 38CV? I'm looking at some pictures and everything from the scale of the Type X to the odd B-pillars to the fold down windshield matches your original picture. It has the same funky roof too. From what I can tell, everything on the X26 CV matches your picture more accurately than the 38CV does. Just curious to know why you think it is the 38CV

ropat53 · « **Reply #23 on:** July 12, 2013, 02:23:07 PM »

How about this 38 CV? The car does look longer, but the picture would seem to be somewhat elongated.

choppertrainee · « **Reply #24 on:** July 12, 2013, 02:41:22 PM »

Much much much more convincing. However, it is, as you pointed out, longer. And even if the picture is slightly distorted, look at the distance between the seats when compared to the original picture. Think about where the little box on the side sill would be in the original picture compared to the one you just posted. I think the 38CV has a solid 1-2 feet more length than the car in question. I appreciate your willingness to have a conversation with me by the way. I'm a rookie who has little knowledge of these older cars, but you refrain from treating me as such. Thanks!

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