Monty337 - Solved: 1904-1905 Buffum 4-4 Greyhound Eight

[el_monty]

Fellow Autopuzzlers, for a point please tell me the make, model and year of this car.

Don't be naughty! Stay away from Google Search by Image, kids.

[el_monty]

Up to the Experts.

[Fёdor]

French

[el_monty]

It's not French.

[Fёdor]

American

[el_monty]

Yes, from the USA

[neilshouse]

Perhaps a Stoddard-Dayton?

[el_monty]

No. This car is earlier than Stoddard-Dayton.

[ftg3plus4]

Production make? Made before 1905?

[Rusty Chrome]

1906 Thomas Runabout

[el_monty]

Production make? Made before 1905?

It's from 1904 or 05

1906 Thomas Runabout

Not a Thomas

[ftg3plus4]

Made in Michigan?

[el_monty]

Not from Michigan.

[ftg3plus4]

Was the make still in existence in 1908?

[el_monty]

Was the make still in existence in 1908?

No.

[ftg3plus4]

Was it in existence as early as 1902?

[el_monty]

Was it in existence as early as 1902?

Most sources say yes, though a couple disagree. It seems to me that it's possible that the company was oficially founded after that date, but there is no doubt that its founder had been building cars for a number of years beforehand.

[Fёdor]

the company existed until 1910?

[el_monty]

the company existed until 1910?

Was the make still in existence in 1908?

No.

[Fёdor]

Ardsley?

can be seen that the car 1906-1907

[kwgibbs]

Buffum?

[el_monty]

Ardsley?

can be seen that the car 1906-1907

Not an Ardley, because...

Buffum?

Yes! It's a Buffum! Locked for you to complete the information.

[kwgibbs]

according to my source,its a 1904-1905 Buffum 4-4 Greyhound 80hp eight ?

[el_monty]

Yes, the point is yours!
"For two years, the little-known H.H. Buffum produced an 80hp passenger version of its 100hp Central Greyhound racing car, which was named after Central Automobile of New York. It was the first eight-cylinder engine offered in a regular-production American automobile. Described as "octuple opposed," it came from Edward Buffum's racing boats and comprised two Buffum inline-fours laid flat facing away from each other, sharing a central crankshaft, with a 4 1/2-inch bore and 5 1/2-inch stroke, measuring 699.8 cubic inches. If that isn't enough, The Automobile described Buffum's hand-hammered alloy body as "one of the finest pieces of automobile construction ever shown....This car is the work of a mechanic of the class to which all makeshift is abhorrent." Buffum topped it all off by next tilting his pair of fours up and offering a 40hp V-8 for 1905 or 1906, either the first or second V-8 in an American automobile."

[kwgibbs]

Thank You!