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Re: grob 2017.07.19 (01) / Alfa Romeo with bodywork by?
« Reply #50 on: September 01, 2017, 05:42:18 PM »
Chassis and drive train: Alfa Romeo

Bodywork: by a German company
but not:

Ambi-Budd
Baur
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Erdmann & Rossi
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Re: grob 2017.07.19 (01) / Alfa Romeo with bodywork by?
« Reply #51 on: September 01, 2017, 07:13:30 PM »
Neuss?
« Last Edit: September 01, 2017, 07:15:57 PM by galrot »

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Re: grob 2017.07.19 (01) / Alfa Romeo with bodywork by?
« Reply #52 on: September 02, 2017, 03:32:46 AM »
Pfff.... :(  Autenrieth ?

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Re: grob 2017.07.19 (01) / Alfa Romeo with bodywork by?
« Reply #53 on: September 02, 2017, 05:30:43 AM »
Chassis and drive train: Alfa Romeo
I can´t believe this is not solved, yet... :o

Bodywork: by a German company
but not:

Ambi-Budd
Authenried
Baur
Buhne
Drauz
Drews
Erdmann & Rossi
Gläser
Hebmüller
Ihle
Karmann
Kellner
Ludewig
Neuss
Reutter
Spohn
Weinberger
Weinsberg
Wendler

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Re: grob 2017.07.19 (01) / Alfa Romeo with bodywork by?
« Reply #54 on: September 02, 2017, 07:53:56 AM »
Vetter?

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Re: grob 2017.07.19 (01) / Alfa Romeo with bodywork by?
« Reply #55 on: September 02, 2017, 08:03:36 AM »
Kassböhrer ?

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Re: grob 2017.07.19 (01) / Alfa Romeo with bodywork by?
« Reply #56 on: September 02, 2017, 10:56:11 AM »
Chassis and drive train: Alfa Romeo

Bodywork: by a German company
but not:

Ambi-Budd
Authenried
Baur
Buhne
Drauz
Drews
Erdmann & Rossi
Gläser
Hebmüller
Ihle
Kässbohrer
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Kellner
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Vetter
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Re: grob 2017.07.19 (01) / Alfa Romeo with bodywork by?
« Reply #57 on: September 02, 2017, 11:32:35 AM »
Papler?
« Last Edit: September 02, 2017, 11:42:44 AM by galrot »

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Re: grob 2017.07.19 (01) / Alfa Romeo with bodywork by?
« Reply #58 on: September 02, 2017, 01:05:23 PM »
There are a couple of well-known ones left like Voll&Ruhrbeck but they don't exist anymore...... let's try Rometsch ?

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Re: grob 2017.07.19 (01) / Alfa Romeo with bodywork by?
« Reply #59 on: September 02, 2017, 02:02:55 PM »
We finally have a winner.

Papler it is!

One point for galrot.

One more point is available to identify the chassis number of this one!

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Re: Alfa Romeo with bodywork by Papler - who knows the chassis number?
« Reply #60 on: September 16, 2017, 09:50:34 AM »
If you don't move this to the Professionals, then that one elusive point may never be distributed :)
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Re: Alfa Romeo with bodywork by Papler - who knows the chassis number?
« Reply #61 on: September 16, 2017, 12:42:41 PM »
Do you have a unmodified picture of the car btw?  :)

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Re: Alfa Romeo with bodywork by Papler - who knows the chassis number?
« Reply #62 on: September 16, 2017, 01:08:18 PM »
Is it a 8c2300 ?

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Re: Alfa Romeo with bodywork by Papler - who knows the chassis number?
« Reply #63 on: September 17, 2017, 05:27:05 AM »
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Do you have a unmodified picture of the car btw?

Yes :)

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Is it a 8c2300 ?

I am not sure, but I think it is a smaller model.

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If you don't move this to the Professionals, then that one elusive point may never be distributed

Done.

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Re: Alfa Romeo with bodywork by Papler - who knows the chassis number?
« Reply #64 on: September 17, 2017, 05:36:41 AM »
I had this car as a puzzle myself. You can see the article from Motor-Kritik and the explanation.
Now if you look on the web, you can find the P3 registry quite easily. In there they offer detailed history of every P3 except this one:  Alfa Romeo Tipo B (P3) s/n 50008

So, my guess is that this is the ex-Caracciola P3 s/n 50008

Just an educated guess :)
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Re: Alfa Romeo with bodywork by Papler - who knows the chassis number?
« Reply #65 on: September 17, 2017, 10:11:40 AM »
Perfect!

Your point.

Thank you - now I am sure, as this is the same car at the same place:

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Re: Ex-Caracciola Alfa Romeo P3 with bodywork by Papler
« Reply #66 on: September 18, 2017, 05:09:21 AM »
Interesting..... it is also said that s/n 50008 was used for one of the Bimotore Alfa's.

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Re: Ex-Caracciola Alfa Romeo P3 with bodywork by Papler
« Reply #67 on: September 18, 2017, 06:12:16 AM »
Interesting..... it is also said that s/n 50008 was used for one of the Bimotore Alfa's.

It is possible. I am just saying that this is a P3 claimed to be ex-Caracciola and I did not see one such car in the registry
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