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Fellow Autopuzzlers, I present I slightly special puzzle today. Here are two pictures of very old cars. To win the point, please tell me the marque and year of each of the cars and what is the link between the two photos.

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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2017, 03:03:21 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2017, 11:59:21 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2017, 03:17:33 PM »
Yes, one of them is an ALCO. I'll give you a lock for one try to fill in the rest of the information for the point.
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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2017, 12:49:55 PM »
 
Pictured above shows the son of the company founder Grover C. Bergdoll Bergdoll and the car ALCO-6 Black Beast Racer in 1909. The photo below shows the stand of the company Bergdoll 1910

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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2017, 03:49:35 AM »
Congratulations, you win another point! The car in the first picture is not the Black Beast, but another ALCO-6 racer from the same period owned by Grover Cleveland Bergdoll, who is shown making repairs to it during the Vanderbilt Cup (my sources are unclear about the year). Grover Bergdoll came from a rich Philadelphia family; his grandfather had been a German immigrant who had founded the Louis Bergdoll & Sons Brewing Company. He was an early aviator and racing enthusiast, and with his older brothers Louis J. and Erwin co-founded the Louis J. Bergdoll Motor Company. Grover would later become most (in)famous for escaping back to his family's ancestral land, Germany, to dodge the draft for the Great War. The bottom picture shows a Bergdoll Model 30, produced from 1908 to 1912. My information, from a seller who the photo on eBay as a poster, is that the stand was from 1911.
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