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Solved: Wendax 4037 - Cadillac Series 314 Victoria Coupe
« on: May 14, 2023, 03:51:34 AM »
Shining in the spring sun.

For one point, please respond and identify this car.
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Re: Wendax 4037
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2023, 02:41:12 AM »
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Re: Wendax 4037
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2023, 02:44:37 AM »
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Re: Wendax 4037
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2023, 03:36:46 AM »
From US?
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Re: Wendax 4037
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2023, 03:58:53 AM »
Yes
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Re: Wendax 4037
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2023, 04:49:08 AM »
Ford?
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: Wendax 4037
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2023, 05:29:28 AM »
No
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Re: Wendax 4037
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2023, 06:08:35 AM »
made in General Motors ?
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Re: Wendax 4037
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2023, 06:40:26 AM »
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Re: Wendax 4037
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2023, 06:50:21 AM »
Oldsmobile
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: Wendax 4037
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2023, 07:25:58 AM »
No
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Re: Wendax 4037
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2023, 07:55:08 AM »
LaSalle?
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Re: Wendax 4037
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2023, 07:57:25 AM »
Cadillac, 1925?
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Re: Wendax 4037
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2023, 08:12:43 AM »
Cadillac is probably right.  I think 1925 had more louvers in the hood.

Possibly a 1927 Cadillac Victoria Coupe
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Re: Wendax 4037
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2023, 12:17:51 PM »
Quote from: fromwien on June 06, 2023, 07:57:25 AM
Cadillac, 1925?
Quote from: sixtee5cuda on June 06, 2023, 08:12:43 AM
Cadillac is probably right.  I think 1925 had more louvers in the hood.

Possibly a 1927 Cadillac Victoria Coupe
It is a Cadillac Victoria Coupe, but neither 1925 nor 1927.
Locked for the two of you. Whoever finds the right model and model year first will get the point.
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Re: Wendax 4037
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2023, 01:14:43 PM »
May be it is a 1926 model, but I attached a picture and description of a car, which could be the identical puzzle car, named "Opera Coupe" 1925
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Re: Wendax 4037
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2023, 10:10:12 PM »
The attached image from Fromwien indicates it is both an Opera Coupe, and a Victoria Coupe.  There are several sources online with different images of this car, all claiming it is from 1925.  There is at least one more "1925" Cadillac listed online, with the small number of louvers on the hood.  Maybe different model numbers, or late-year production.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2023, 10:19:33 PM by sixtee5cuda »
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Re: Wendax 4037
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2023, 01:25:49 PM »
Both of you are adding bits to the solution: It is a 1926 model (fromwien) and as it is a Victoria Coupe it must have been built late in 1925 (sixtee5cuda), because in January 1926 the bodies were modernized. I am still missing the model designation.
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Re: Wendax 4037
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2023, 04:33:42 PM »
V 63
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Re: Wendax 4037
« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2023, 01:25:55 AM »
No, that would be an earlier model
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Re: Wendax 4037
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2023, 03:04:24 AM »
Series 314

Pictures of the 'Victoria Coupé' attached, out of the Cadillac '90' brochure from 1926
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Re: Wendax 4037
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2023, 10:06:45 AM »
One more point for you.
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Re: Wendax 4037
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2023, 12:33:12 PM »
Quote from: sixtee5cuda on June 06, 2023, 07:55:08 AM
LaSalle?
Quote from: fromwien on June 06, 2023, 07:57:25 AM
Cadillac, 1925?
Quote from: sixtee5cuda on June 06, 2023, 08:12:43 AM
Cadillac is probably right.  I think 1925 had more louvers in the hood.

Possibly a 1927 Cadillac Victoria Coupe
Quote from: Wendax on June 06, 2023, 12:17:51 PM
Quote from: fromwien on June 06, 2023, 07:57:25 AM
Cadillac, 1925?
Quote from: sixtee5cuda on June 06, 2023, 08:12:43 AM
Cadillac is probably right.  I think 1925 had more louvers in the hood.

Possibly a 1927 Cadillac Victoria Coupe
It is a Cadillac Victoria Coupe, but neither 1925 nor 1927.
Locked for the two of you. Whoever finds the right model and model year first will get the point.
Quote from: Wendax on June 07, 2023, 01:25:49 PM
Both of you are adding bits to the solution: It is a 1926 model (fromwien) and as it is a Victoria Coupe it must have been built late in 1925 (sixtee5cuda), because in January 1926 the bodies were modernized. I am still missing the model designation.
Sorry, following the discussion, I am getting not quite clear about the year of the puzzle car.
Within my first reply to the puzzle, I mentioned 1925. You answered with 'no'.
Later, I replied with '1926 model'. You agreed, but mentioned, ..' it must have been built late in 1925 (sixtee5cuda), because in January 1926 the bodies were modernized'..
Is '1925 (sixtee5cuda)' right, should be '1925 (fromwien)' also right, not wrong. But, is it right?
It just struck me that you never noticed 'sixtee5cuda's' first reply ('LaSalle'), but sat him in competition with me within his second reply, when he confirmed my first answer 'Cadillac'.
No problem at all, just wanted to get some clarity.

On the occasion to all fathers: Happy 'Father's Day' today
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Re: Solved: Wendax 4037 - Cadillac Series 314 Victoria Coupe
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2023, 01:38:43 PM »
As you surely might know, American cars are referred to by their model year which usually begins in the previous year. So to avoid confusion my interpretation of a question like "Cadillac, 1925?" without an additional "built in" is asking for a 1925 model. Noone would call a '57 Chevy built late in 1956 a '56 Chevy.
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Re: Solved: Wendax 4037 - Cadillac Series 314 Victoria Coupe
« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2023, 02:27:10 PM »
To avoid misunderstandings, it would also have been possible to reply to the answer: 'Cadillac, 1925', with:
'Cadillac': 'Yes' and '1925': 'Please specify'
Since '1925' isn't fundamentally wrong. As can be seen by numerous entries of the puzzle-car on several brand-specific websites.

LaSalle?
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