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Solved NIC#983 - Howorth Special ( Lagonda M45 base)

Started by nicanary, October 03, 2018, 06:33:27 AM

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nicanary

What was this car called, and on what was it based?
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nicanary

I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

tobytwirl


nicanary

I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

Mogul


tobytwirl


nicanary

Not French, and not an HRG.
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D-type

Is there some Bugatti in there?
Duncan Rollo

The more you learn, the more you realise how little you know.

tobytwirl

Is it a pre-war car underneath?

nicanary

No Bugatti bits, but it is pre-war.
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tobytwirl


Allan L

Could be Frazer Nash based, but probably not.
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smodmog


D-type

An obvious question:  it is British isn't it?
Duncan Rollo

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nicanary

Quote from: smodmog on October 23, 2018, 03:21:52 AM
Lagonda ?

Questions, questions! After all that, yes it was based on a Lagonda.
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smodmog

Lagonda Rapier based race car ?

smodmog

1934 Lagonda M45 Howorth Special

nicanary

Quote from: smodmog on October 23, 2018, 04:49:43 AM
1934 Lagonda M45 Howorth Special

That's the answer. Built in 1944 by Hugh Howorth based on a Lagonds M45 from about 1934.
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Allan L

As is my custom, I can find something to quibble about!
The front of this car shows no sign of the dumbirons that a M45 has and my Frazer Nash guess (above) was based on that lack of dumbirons/semi-elliptic front springs. The later Lagonda V12 had independent front suspension as did the LG6 six-cylinder car and I'd say the front end points to it being i.f.s. - but by then Lagonda had hydraulic brakes which this special has not.
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nicanary

Pedants and those of an enquiring mind are the backbone of Autopuzzles!

The remains of the car were in an H & H auction and the auction house blurb is fairly lengthy. The original M45 was a pillarless saloon AYW11 and Howorth rebuilt it as an open sports registered FTJ588. It was badly damaged in a sprint and he rebuilt it again with a shortened chassis with drilled everything and a homebuilt ifs supposedly from a Humber staff car (??). It had a wide front track and thus a crablike stance.

It was re-registered again CWH222 and later on had a new Meadows engine with ENV preselector box.

So your observation was spot-on. Not M45 front suspension but indeed an ifs setup.
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia