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Re: NIC#1173
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2020, 03:28:03 PM »
 :scratch: Not Colin Chapman it's too big and heavy.  Not John Tojeiro - he was a chassis man.  Not Charlie or John Cooper - again they built their own chassis.  Not Sydney Allard as he liked Ford V8, or Steyr engines. 
Could it be Oscar Moore
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Re: NIC#1173
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2020, 03:43:18 PM »
:scratch: Not Colin Chapman it's too big and heavy.  Not John Tojeiro - he was a chassis man.  Not Charlie or John Cooper - again they built their own chassis.  Not Sydney Allard as he liked Ford V8, or Steyr engines. 
Could it be Oscar Moore?

Not Moore. This builder is much less well-known. Nothing to do with motor sport.
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Re: NIC#1173
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2020, 05:27:32 PM »
If he's nothing to do with motor sport, I haven't a clue where to go from here.  Please unlock it so others can have a try.
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Re: NIC#1173
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2020, 04:09:46 AM »
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Re: NIC#1173
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2020, 06:35:35 AM »
Rather than hunting for the builder, let's find which SS it was. From bonnet length which looks about right for a four-cylinder and a few other clues I'd say it was an SS2 of about 1935.
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Re: NIC#1173
« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2020, 07:09:38 AM »
Rather than hunting for the builder, let's find which SS it was. From bonnet length which looks about right for a four-cylinder and a few other clues I'd say it was an SS2 of about 1935.

No point in beating about the bush - donor car was an SS1.
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Re: NIC#1173
« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2020, 08:01:05 AM »
Rather than hunting for the builder, let's find which SS it was. From bonnet length which looks about right for a four-cylinder and a few other clues I'd say it was an SS2 of about 1935.

No point in beating about the bush - donor car was an SS1.
I had the idea there was not room under that bonnet for the SS1's six-cylinder engine. A hunt for SS1 specials on t'internet doesn't help, as the only possible one is offered for sale on a website that seems suspect. . . and gives Error 522 if I try to look.
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Re: NIC#1173
« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2020, 02:04:47 PM »
I found a website that calls this a "Jaguar SS1 Kitcher Special."  But  the SS1 was before SS adopted the Jaguar name. so I'll go for "Kitcher Special"
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Re: NIC#1173
« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2020, 02:32:43 PM »
I found a website that calls this a "Jaguar SS1 Kitcher Special."  But  the SS1 was before SS adopted the Jaguar name. so I'll go for "Kitcher Special"

That's it! I agree it shouldn't be called a Jaguar. Rowley Kitcher built 14 Rover specials of this type, but also on other chassis, including Talbot and Riley. This is maybe the only SS Kitcher Special. Here's a front view.
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Re: Solved NIC#1173 - Kitcher Special based on SS1
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2020, 03:33:16 PM »
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My apologies for stealing your point
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Re: Solved NIC#1173 - Kitcher Special based on SS1
« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2020, 03:59:24 PM »
That's a point I am really happy to concede, if yer see wot I mean!
I still think it's SS2-based anyway . . .
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Re: Solved NIC#1173 - Kitcher Special based on SS1
« Reply #36 on: January 22, 2020, 05:20:26 PM »
That's a point I am really happy to concede, if yer see wot I mean!
I still think it's SS2-based anyway . . .

To add to the confusion, the vendor claims it's fitted with a Rover engine, though a 1.5 litre SS1 engine is available (??!!.)
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Re: Solved NIC#1173 - Kitcher Special based on SS1
« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2020, 06:43:49 PM »
That's a point I am really happy to concede, if yer see wot I mean!
I still think it's SS2-based anyway . . .
The SS2 was a four rather than a six wasn't it?  That would explain the bonnet length.
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Re: Solved NIC#1173 - Kitcher Special based on SS1
« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2020, 06:23:16 AM »
That's a point I am really happy to concede, if yer see wot I mean!
I still think it's SS2-based anyway . . .
The SS2 was a four rather than a six wasn't it?  That would explain the bonnet length.
That's why I think SS2 and I'm also confused that a 1½ litre SS1 engine is available, as it never was in period.
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Re: Solved NIC#1173 - Kitcher Special based on SS1
« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2020, 07:07:05 AM »
That's a point I am really happy to concede, if yer see wot I mean!
I still think it's SS2-based anyway . . .
The SS2 was a four rather than a six wasn't it?  That would explain the bonnet length.
That's why I think SS2 and I'm also confused that a 1½ litre SS1 engine is available, as it never was in period.

Hence my question and exclamation marks....
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