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Solved: PN #1868 -- Eldin & Lagier, 1902
« on: October 19, 2024, 01:47:58 AM »
I have yet to see a photo of a complete automobile, but according to literature there were cars built by this company. Anybody for a challenge? What was the name of the manufacturer? There's a point at stake!
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Re: PN #1868
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2024, 01:44:36 AM »
Experts?
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Re: PN #1868
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2024, 04:53:53 AM »
Any kind of tractor?
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: PN #1868
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2024, 05:01:44 AM »
no, this was a normal touring car
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Re: PN #1868
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2024, 04:38:39 PM »
Piecing together as much information as I can from the drawing I'm hoping its by Vulcan Motor Manufacturing and Trading about 1904 having a twin cylinder engine and I think Belt drive
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Re: PN #1868
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2024, 05:30:16 PM »
a tiny bit earlier, not from Vulcan
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Re: PN #1868
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2024, 02:31:18 PM »
2nd educated guess. a Lee Stroyer from 1903.
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Re: PN #1868
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2024, 04:11:28 PM »
no, but the year is right
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Re: PN #1868
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2024, 02:51:30 PM »
I've made the assumption this is a british car is this correct?
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Re: PN #1868
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2024, 07:49:19 AM »
no, this is not a British car - sorry about that
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Re: PN #1868
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2024, 08:08:15 AM »
From USA?
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: PN #1868
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2024, 04:29:48 PM »
stay in Europe :)
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Re: PN #1868
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2024, 05:05:31 PM »
France?
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
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A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

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Re: PN #1868
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2024, 05:22:08 AM »
yes
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Re: PN #1868
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2024, 06:53:59 AM »
Professionals, please join
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Re: PN #1868
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2024, 06:23:10 AM »
Masters?
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Re: PN #1868
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2024, 07:00:13 AM »
1901 Eldin et Lagier from Lyon
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Re: PN #1868
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2024, 12:28:47 PM »
1902 - otherwise it is correct! Congratulations
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Re: Solved: PN #1868 -- Eldin & Lagier, 1902
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2024, 01:22:54 PM »
Quote from: pnegyesi on October 19, 2024, 01:47:58 AM
I have yet to see a photo of a complete automobile, but according to literature there were cars built by this company.
There are enough images. It is also known as Barisien and La Princesse
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Re: PN #1868
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2024, 03:56:31 PM »
Quote from: pnegyesi on November 19, 2024, 12:28:47 PM
1902 - otherwise it is correct! Congratulations
Thanks for the point, but 1901 is correct. The drawing comes from La France Automobile n° 14 from April 6, 1901 according to my source.

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Re: Solved: PN #1868 -- Eldin & Lagier, 1902
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2024, 01:40:42 AM »
I took it from La Locomotion Automobile, January, 1902. Every other source also mentioned 1902-1903 as its existence, but I am happy to modify it.
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