Author Topic: Solved - NEH 4929: Renault Supercinq proposal by Marcello Gandini - 1979 (Read 1127 times)

Carnut · « **on:** October 21, 2016, 07:09:30 AM »

What's this, by whom, from when - for 1 point?:

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Lorenzo721 · « **Reply #1 on:** October 21, 2016, 08:59:39 AM »

Designed by Bertone? There are a few details reminiscent of Marcello Gandini's Citroën BX.

Carnut · « **Reply #2 on:** October 21, 2016, 01:00:43 PM »

Quote from: Lorenzo721 on October 21, 2016, 08:59:39 AM

Designed by Bertone? There are a few details reminiscent of Marcello Gandini's Citroën BX.

No, it's not by Bertone..

Lofotleif · « **Reply #3 on:** October 22, 2016, 04:46:13 AM »

To France ?

Carnut · « **Reply #4 on:** October 22, 2016, 09:12:11 AM »

Quote from: Lofotleif on October 22, 2016, 04:46:13 AM

To France ?

Oui Monsieur..

Lorenzo721 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 22, 2016, 09:41:27 AM »

A prototype for the Renault Supercinq?

Carnut · « **Reply #6 on:** October 23, 2016, 12:30:47 PM »

Quote from: Lorenzo721 on October 22, 2016, 09:41:27 AM

A prototype for the Renault Supercinq?

Yes!
Locked for you to complete.

Lorenzo721 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 23, 2016, 08:37:52 PM »

I have it as "Project 140" from 1979, submitted by Marcello Gandini... Hey, what did you answer when I mentioned Gandini in my first post?

Carnut · « **Reply #8 on:** October 24, 2016, 04:10:21 AM »

Quote from: Lorenzo721 on October 23, 2016, 08:37:52 PM

I have it as "Project 140" from 1979, submitted by Marcello Gandini... Hey, what did you answer when I mentioned Gandini in my first post?

Because I have it as by someone else, not Gandini..
I'll check into it and see if the site I got it from was wrong..

Lorenzo721 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 24, 2016, 04:30:35 AM »

Ok then, now I doubt about my own source!

Carnut · « **Reply #10 on:** October 24, 2016, 05:43:16 AM »

Quote from: Lorenzo721 on October 24, 2016, 04:30:35 AM

Ok then, now I doubt about my own source!

I have seen your source showing the answer you gave; there are lots of errors on that site but whether this is one of them I'm not sure. I think my answer is right though so I'll keep it locked to see if you can find it.

Carnut · « **Reply #11 on:** November 04, 2016, 06:12:24 AM »

OK, it's been locked for long enough so let's see if an Expert can either come up with I've got or say if Lorenzo721 is right..

Lorenzo721 · « **Reply #12 on:** November 04, 2016, 07:23:37 AM »

Sorry, I have forgotten about that one... Anyway I didn't find any further info than the one I already posted.

sixtee5cuda · « **Reply #13 on:** November 04, 2016, 09:51:27 AM »

Your source may suggest this car is by Heuliez. I found more suggesting that Gandini is the correct answer.

Carnut · « **Reply #14 on:** November 04, 2016, 01:50:08 PM »

Quote from: sixtee5cuda on November 04, 2016, 09:51:27 AM

Your source may suggest this car is by Heuliez. I found more suggesting that Gandini is the correct answer.

Yes, that is what my source said. Heuliez did build other prototypes for Renault but none of them look like this one.
It does, however, have similarities to other Gandini designs.
I'll sort this one out tomorrow and give Lorenzo his point; thanks for your input though.

Lorenzo721 · « **Reply #15 on:** November 04, 2016, 06:33:43 PM »

I found the internet page you referred to. The problem is, the same picture is entered in two different places, once as a Heuliez project, and a second time as a Gandini design, so I guess that is where the confusion started. I still favour the latter; the overall style is truly reminiscent of other Gandini projects of the time.

Carnut · « **Reply #16 on:** November 04, 2016, 07:11:07 PM »

Sorry Lorenzo but links to other sites like that are strictly forbidden at AutoPuzzles as it so often compromises other puzzles.
I've removed your links from your post.

Lorenzo721 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 04, 2016, 08:39:33 PM »

Oops sorry, I forgot about this rule...

Carnut · « **Reply #18 on:** November 07, 2016, 02:09:18 PM »

Quote from: Lorenzo721 on October 23, 2016, 08:37:52 PM

I have it as "Project 140" from 1979, submitted by Marcello Gandini... Hey, what did you answer when I mentioned Gandini in my first post?

This actually dates from 1984 and was Gandini's first project after quitting Bertone and starting his own independent design studio.

Lorenzo721 · « **Reply #19 on:** November 07, 2016, 05:44:37 PM »

Thanks for the details. The car looks rather nice, but I guess as the submission was quite late for a car launched in spring 1985.

oko94 · « **Reply #20 on:** November 08, 2016, 02:36:50 AM »

This mockup by Gandini is featured in the great book "50 ans de petites et secrètes Renault". It was completed in 1979, not in 1984. It was rejected but Gandini still won the competition with a completely different design, that was publicly unveiled in September 1984.

Carnut · « **Reply #21 on:** November 08, 2016, 04:08:45 AM »

Quote from: oko94 on November 08, 2016, 02:36:50 AM

This mockup by Gandini is featured in the great book "50 ans de petites et secrètes Renault". It was completed in 1979, not in 1984. It was rejected but Gandini still won the competition with a completely different design, that was publicly unveiled in September 1984.

Ah, thanks for the clarification.
Gandini didn't leave Bertone until 1980 though so not sure what he was doing working independently in 1979..
After he left he still completed some Bertone proposals for them that he was working on, hence it was 4 more years before his first car as a fully independent designer - the Supercinq.

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Author Topic: Solved - NEH 4929: Renault Supercinq proposal by Marcello Gandini - 1979 (Read 1127 times)