Author Topic: Solved: PN #904 -- Butcher & Gage, 1903  (Read 1512 times)

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Re: PN #904
« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2016, 05:22:43 AM »
Is it featured in any book or in the Standard Catalog?

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Re: PN #904
« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2016, 07:08:00 AM »
It is mentioned in the Standard Catalog
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Re: PN #904
« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2016, 07:28:41 AM »
Was it later or previously known like something else, like Shelby/Darling, Reinerston/Rex Buckboard and similar?

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Re: PN #904
« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2016, 08:40:51 AM »
no
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Re: PN #904
« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2016, 08:48:41 AM »
I hope it's from Ohio...

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Re: PN #904
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2016, 10:55:31 AM »
no
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Re: PN #904
« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2016, 04:28:02 PM »
Cleaver?

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Re: PN #904
« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2016, 12:12:37 AM »
no
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Re: PN #904
« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2016, 11:10:09 AM »
From Michigan?

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Re: PN #904
« Reply #34 on: July 09, 2016, 11:51:41 AM »
yes
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Re: PN #904
« Reply #35 on: July 09, 2016, 12:21:16 PM »
M.B. Martin's?

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Re: PN #904
« Reply #36 on: July 09, 2016, 12:49:11 PM »
no
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Re: PN #904
« Reply #37 on: July 09, 2016, 01:09:42 PM »
Charles H. Wisner?

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Re: PN #904
« Reply #38 on: July 09, 2016, 01:12:49 PM »
no
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Re: PN #904
« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2016, 01:18:17 PM »
A company that built 2 cars, from Michigan, active for less than one year in 1903.
This one is a gasoline car.
Is the other a gasoline car as well?
Just a clarification: active for more than 1 year as a 1903-1903 company or as a late 1902 early 1903 (or late 1903 early 1904)?

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Re: PN #904
« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2016, 01:34:21 PM »
oops, the material just disappeared from the web. But this was a company set up in 1903. It made two cars, then realised it's not working, so they stopped. Apparently the company survived afterwards. Probably both cars were petrol powered
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Re: PN #904
« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2016, 02:15:56 PM »
I'm not looking for it on the web but on my index...I already browsed all the Standard Catalog and now I know it's not pictured there...I hope the info online matches with the ones in that book.
If I sort my info according to what I know (2 models, 1903 only, Michigan, gasoline) I got nothing...
Not a Jackson, right?


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Re: PN #904
« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2016, 02:35:35 PM »
no, there's no picture in the Standard Catalog - in fact, they say that it is not known whether the two cars were really built at all. But here we have proof. No, it's not a Jackson, but you're onto something
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Re: PN #904
« Reply #43 on: July 09, 2016, 03:05:05 PM »
Butcher & Gage ;)

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Re: PN #904
« Reply #44 on: July 09, 2016, 04:04:54 PM »
I gave you a lot of clues :)! Congrats
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Re: Solved: PN #904 -- Butcher & Gage, 1903
« Reply #45 on: July 09, 2016, 04:42:10 PM »
You did, but I found it only because I put a special tag in my index when the production of the maker is in doubt.
Without THAT clue I don't think I could have made it...I filed 6713 makers from those catalogs!